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0. PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Lack...of....motivation? Reply with quote

Sure, there's lots of great songs I wanna make, but the problem is they keep drifting off beat by really slight margins, that end up making 8th runs runs of spaced out 16ths.....and I don't have any good songs....anyhelp? I need motivation here....and no old stepfiles (ie. DDR songs, unless its a new mix).
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1. PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your arrows are drifting off sync, it may be from the folliwing:

Your offset (gap value) is wrong (most likely the case)
The BPM of the song shifts, and you didnt change it (possibility)
You have the steps configured with an off BPM (slight chance)


As for songs, I pick the songs I stepfile by listening to songs that have a great beat. Songs that when i'm listening to, i can't help but to tap my fingers on the desk to the music biggrin.gif

Listen to a song of your choice. Try to tap your desk to the beat and music of the song. If you find that the taps make sense, then try stepfiling that song!
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2. PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...how do I set the gap? Is that the seconds to Zero or w/e? cuz What would happen is it starts out perfectly, and in the same stretch, by the end, it will have drifted off.....like gradually
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me: Ian Van Dahl made castles in the sky. ur just gullible
dude: no ian van dahl remixed it....this is different sounding
me: yeah, cuz hes a DJ, and remixed it
me: seriously, you thought DJ Mystik made Castles in the Sky?
dude: who cares
me: i do
me: i think its funny
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3. PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move to the top of the stepchart. Look where it says Current Seconds (see picture),it should be set default at 0.00 (its set to -0.02 in the pic because I changed it)

Use F11 and F12 to change the offset so the arrows move up earlier or later.

Experiment with it untill you have it set so it doesn't drift offsync.


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4. PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but wouldn't that change when the arrows are in time with the music at the beginning?
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dude: no ian van dahl remixed it....this is different sounding
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5. PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to adjust it so that all of the 1/4 notes are perfectly on beat.

If the gap doesnt change it from drifting offsync, then its a BPM issue.

IM me, i'll test it out. I'll try messing with the gap and stuff
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6. PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but like, what are the keystrokes to change it? I can't seem to find it...
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dude: no ian van dahl remixed it....this is different sounding
me: yeah, cuz hes a DJ, and remixed it
me: seriously, you thought DJ Mystik made Castles in the Sky?
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me: i think its funny
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7. PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-joe- wrote:
Use F11 and F12 to change the offset so the arrows move up earlier or later.

Experiment with it untill you have it set so it doesn't drift offsync.


its easy man. and if it is onsync at one point and off at another, you have a bad bpm. if it is really really gradual, try messing with your inital bpm. if at a point it gets suddenly offbeat, try changing the bpm at that point.

what i like to do with songs that change bpm is just put a buncha left quarter note arrows down for like 100 measures, then put on assisst tick and listen. if it goes offbeat, i mess around with the bpms. if it doesnt, great, i start the steps.

and "no old stepfiles"? whats wrong with making edits of DDR songs? theyre a good place to start since you already know the bm and stuff. and are you using real music? or techno-ish stuff?
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just to answer, if someone who stands next to you watching you play PSMO but you get a D on it, versus somebody who understands perfect attacking and stuff, will think you suck. A player is considered good in my opinion when a player of a higher level comments about you or see's you triple A a song. Or if somebody looks up to you. Hope it clarifies.

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8. PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:-D Secret Plans are as follows:
Trans-Siberian Orchestra for Christmas stuff. Planning on releasing an X-mas pack.

Then I got some techno that's quite interesting, along with Beethoven's Last Night, again by TSO. So half techno/half rock. I deduce that the TSO stuff is gonna be fairly onbeat, since they actually have a conducter.
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me: Ian Van Dahl made castles in the sky. ur just gullible
dude: no ian van dahl remixed it....this is different sounding
me: yeah, cuz hes a DJ, and remixed it
me: seriously, you thought DJ Mystik made Castles in the Sky?
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me: i think its funny
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9. PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, i would deduce the opposite. if its actually done live with no assisstance from some sort of metronome, the conductor will make things worse. they always exaggerate tempo changes to be more "dramatic".
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just to answer, if someone who stands next to you watching you play PSMO but you get a D on it, versus somebody who understands perfect attacking and stuff, will think you suck. A player is considered good in my opinion when a player of a higher level comments about you or see's you triple A a song. Or if somebody looks up to you. Hope it clarifies.

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10. PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DukAmok wrote:
dude, i would deduce the opposite. if its actually done live with no assisstance from some sort of metronome, the conductor will make things worse. they always exaggerate tempo changes to be more "dramatic".


this is very true. in my conducting lessons I've always been taught to keep a steady beat while at the same time not appearing too mechanical. human error is what makes the music sound real. the only way that orchestra is going to be playing in time is if they have a metronome.
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11. PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I can see what you mean. I'm gonna gonna say "screw it" to the whole project. If you guys wanna try out the songs, AIM me.
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me: Ian Van Dahl made castles in the sky. ur just gullible
dude: no ian van dahl remixed it....this is different sounding
me: yeah, cuz hes a DJ, and remixed it
me: seriously, you thought DJ Mystik made Castles in the Sky?
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me: i think its funny
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