Forums FAQForums FAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Login to check your private messagesLogin to check your private messages   LoginLogin 

Making a stepmania "machine"
 
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> DDR PC and Simulators
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Moridin
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 04 Jul 2004
0. PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:52 am    Post subject: Making a stepmania "machine" Reply with quote

Okay, this could possibly go into a few different categories, but this seems to fit best.

I am planning on buliding a standalone comp running stepmania with my friend. We are planning on using my PC, a pair of CFs and a projector for a really big screen. Now, I have two questions:

1) I have heard that PC adaptors do not work very well with CFs. Is this true, and can it be remedied? We really want to use CF pads.

2) Will there be any timing problems created by using a projector? I know that light is... fairly quick, but I also know how small the timing window can be.

Finally, any other problems anyone can foresee or any suggestions would be welcome.
_________________
NTH17: when your sitting in church and you all of a sudden hear: INTRODUCING K-BUNCC!
NTH17: you know its time to get the hell out
NTH17: the first song wasnt too bad though... he started rapping against homosexuality
NTH17: but when the breakdancers showed up....
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
diddrstrait
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 01 Jan 2004
1. PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

regarding the use of CFs and adapters:

Pantera is going to test out an adapter with the CFs he's going to be getting soon. we should know the answer to this question for sure in a little while.

regarding the speed of light:

light travels at 3 E 8 meters per SECOND.

that's 300,000,000 meters in a single second. so unless you have the projector set up in orbit (or some other way that's really far away), you won't have a noticable lag. that's like saying that there is a noticable lag between the arrow showing up on screen and you seeing it. speed of sound is more of a problem, but again, unless you have the speakers set up many many yards away from you (like say 50), this won't be a problem either.

EDIT: and just so you know, the timing for a marvelous in the arcade is something like .015 seconds. doing some simple math, we can see that the max distance before this timing window becomes distorted would be roughly 4,500,000 meters. in other words, you can't blame crappy PA on the speed of light.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Moridin
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 04 Jul 2004
2. PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. Ever since I took AP Physics in sophomore year, I stopped wanting to figure that stuff out myself. Thermodynamics and special relativity singlehandedly made me stop caring about math lol.

Also, I was figuring any lag might have been caused by factors *other* than the speed of light itself, like the kind of fps a projector can support etc.
_________________
NTH17: when your sitting in church and you all of a sudden hear: INTRODUCING K-BUNCC!
NTH17: you know its time to get the hell out
NTH17: the first song wasnt too bad though... he started rapping against homosexuality
NTH17: but when the breakdancers showed up....
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
diddrstrait
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 01 Jan 2004
3. PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, well I was just playing around with ya :-P

but at any rate...if the projector is newer (like an LCD projector), you won't notice much of a framerate problem. any framerate problem most likely wouldn't mess up the timing anyway...just make the arrows look a bit more jerky.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
DJX
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Location: CA
4. PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncognition wrote:
regarding the speed of light:

light travels at 3 E 8 meters per SECOND.

that's 300,000,000 meters in a single second. so unless you have the projector set up in orbit (or some other way that's really far away), you won't have a noticable lag. that's like saying that there is a noticable lag between the arrow showing up on screen and you seeing it. speed of sound is more of a problem, but again, unless you have the speakers set up many many yards away from you (like say 50), this won't be a problem either.

EDIT: and just so you know, the timing for a marvelous in the arcade is something like .015 seconds. doing some simple math, we can see that the max distance before this timing window becomes distorted would be roughly 4,500,000 meters. in other words, you can't blame crappy PA on the speed of light.


HAHAHA...wow that made me laugh...it wasn't even funny, but still. A projecter set up in orbit...haha, classic.

As for the adapter thing, I don't understand why, but I NEVER had a problem with my CF and adapters. I usually play with my BOOM converter from Lik-Sang with no noticable issues, and we played using my friends adapter once (don't know what it was), and that worked fine too.
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
diddrstrait
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 01 Jan 2004
5. PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have to admit, you'd get some serious bragging rights with that one.

"DUDE! I got you all beat! my stepmania machine is setup in geosynchronous orbit!"

everyone else: o_O?
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Pantera
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯
6. PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The adapter I'm looking for specifically is for doubles, which I would assume would work fine for singles if it does for doubles.

I'm still waiting for my PIN number on my cash card to arrive so I can buy the buggers :\
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> DDR PC and Simulators All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group