Redoctane dual USB adapter woes.

Rancid Cassanova · Basic Member Joined: 08 Apr 2004

http://www.redoctane.com/dualusb.html

Step 1: Install the driver software.
Step 2: Plug everything in.
Step 3: Hold select + start for 3 seconds to put the controller in "dance pad" mode.
Step 4: IT DOESN'T &%*#ING WORK.

I have the same problem with this as with the radio shack model. Thing won't read simultanious up/down or left/right directional input. Which makes rythmn games UNPLAYABLE. You simply can't do any l/r u/d jumps or holds.

I'm running WinXP, using a RedOctane Ignition pad on Stepmania. Any advice on getting the thing to work right? I specifically got the RedOctane because I apparently niavely assumed it would be a good choice for dance pad compatability.

Sigh

x3x · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 am Post subject:

you gotta press start+select+up for 3 secs buddy. Then reconfigure your keys, see if that helps.

Sivadnivek · Basic Member Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Location: Saline, MI

Yeah. I dont have one. I have a PMS USBS2 FrDbsod.. but it works better! My friend has a redoctane dual. It sucks. He will post his woes here as well

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Rancid Cassanova · Basic Member Joined: 08 Apr 2004

Okay. I rebooted, remapped, and futzed with stuff, and now it actually works pretty well. It feels like the timing might be a hair off, but I'll need to test it some more.

Thanks for the advice!

ff · Basic Member Joined: 24 Mar 2004

Heh, I came in here looking to see if anyone else had problems with this thing.

It took me a bit to get it installed in Win2k. I ended up not using the stupid drivers they send (installing the drivers made it not work). From the beginning this felt like an el-cheapo piece of hardware. Linux doesn't even recognise it as a USB device.

Then once I got everything up and going I started running into issues. I do the 3 second thing to make it go into "dance pad" mode but it seems like if you're using two dance pads there are certain button combinations that make it revert back to the old mode which makes both pads suddenly stop working. This makes versus mode unusable.

Could be a voltage issue since I'm using two Ignition pads (with lights). Even just using one pad seems a bit unstable... I dunno. All I do know is that the damn thing doesn't work and I'm pissed off! This is doubly annoying because RO themselves suggest using this thing for dance pads.

I read something somewhere on the 'Net suggesting using an updated driver. I have not tried this. Who knows.

hooded__paladin · Trick Member Joined: 10 Nov 2003

pads with lights are known to usually need more power than most USB adapters can supply, especially when two are connected. It's your problem, not theirs, as they only guarantee that it will work fine with official Sony controllers.

ff · Basic Member Joined: 24 Mar 2004

hooded__paladin · Trick Member Joined: 10 Nov 2003

Sure it was "directed towards you," but it wasn't an insult. And I didn't know RedOctane had that guarantee; EMS only guarantees their adapters to work with official controllers.

And yes, some people mistakenly call it a voltage problem. It is a current problem. I call it a power problem, because since voltage is always the same we can say that a deficiency of current is a deficiency of power as well. 'Power' also makes more sense as a term for electricity than 'current' does to electrical laymen.

Just return it to RedOctane, citing their guarantee. This is not a driver issue; how could it be? Hardware is hardware and downloading a program doesn't allot it more current.

BTW: no matter what RedOctane says, it's safe and wise to assume that pads with lights will not work with any USB adapter.

dlm · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, OH

Anyone else play on one of these with an Ignition and think that the response is really, really lagged? I was playing through one of these on SM on my friend's computer today... here's what I noticed:

Win2K Server through USB 2.0: Slow as anything... probably equivalent to -3 timing on a console, if not more. Maybe even -4 or 5. Basically, I had to step so early it was sick.

WinXP through standard USB: Better, but still a bit slow, maybe feeling like around -1 timing.

Anyone else got a story on these lines?

ff · Basic Member Joined: 24 Mar 2004

Linknisity50 · Trick Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004

Red Octane has screwed me over more than any other company. If you want good service, a brand new product that doesnt come to you dented and scratched, or even a product that does what they say it will...dont go to redoctane.

I baught a metal mat from them, it came scratched and dented. I got the best rated usb/ps2 adapter online...and it didnt work. I buy their PC control box for their pad...It still cant stay in dance mode. I buy a powered usb hub to see if power is an issue...Still doesnt work. Nothing I do out of the 20+ hours ive spent with my near worthless mat has braught me any type of joy...

On top of it, they wont email me back after ive told them ive done everything they said to do....

Everyone just do yourself a favor and dont buy from Redoctane...Terrible service, and overpriced products. A softmat would work better in retrospect to my metal mat...