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Ryu_Hirakashi
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0. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject: Finger Technique Reply with quote

I was curious about what type of fingering technique that people use when they play SM.

As for me up until now I've been using the good old 2 finger pecking technique. Recnetly, I've found that it has become useless in face of songs like Moonlight,Reality,blur, and a few other songs.

So, I've developed a multiple finger technique that once perfected should give me a greater range reach, and will reduce fitigue on my fingers during fast songs. It feels more like I'm typing on a keyboard now.

I've always wondered how songs like blur were even possible with only two fingers I just may have found the key pushing my skill to a new level. devil.gif

Comments,Questions,Concerns....

Let's hear'em!!!

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1. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAhaha funniest thread title evar! Sexual innuendos abound!

umm, yeah I play 2 handed, left hand index and middle finger, right hand middle and ring


HAahaha fingering technique, that's rich laugh.gif
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2. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little Po wrote:
HAhaha funniest thread title evar! Sexual innuendos abound!

umm, yeah I play 2 handed, left hand index and middle finger, right hand middle and ring


HAahaha fingering technique, that's rich laugh.gif


Well, Now that you I think about it is a funny thread title. Now I can't stop laughing. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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3. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i play blur i use 2 fingers...

but yea, i usually play with 2 hands and 3 fingers. Don't ask how exactally, i just do...i've been doing it for along time now so its just natural.

On easier songs i usuaully use 1 hand...

some songs i'll use just my index fingers...so yea, it really depends/ i switch up my style alot.

as for the title...well...lol. riiight.gif
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4. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Finger Technique Reply with quote

Ryu_Hiragoshi wrote:
Reality


lmfao, someone actually remembered my little POS Simfile laugh.gif i'd love to see someone actually pass it... i made it just to be BS
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5. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Finger Technique Reply with quote

CryptopsyBodom wrote:
Ryu_Hiragoshi wrote:
Reality


lmfao, someone actually remembered my little POS Simfile laugh.gif i'd love to see someone actually pass it... i made it just to be BS



blink.gif You made that one?
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6. PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Middle finger!


wait...

for stepmania i use my left and right hand pointer and middle fingers.

http://ogstatus.no-ip.org/joe/Sync%20Extreme%20Version.wmv

What kind of idiot records themself playing SM...
Oh yeah, ME!
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7. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What kind of idiot records themself playing SM...
Oh yeah, ME!


No, I've done it too when people were asking how I AA'ed BMR's V with one hand and 2 fingers.

But now reach is here and no one cares about me. =P
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8. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Finger Technique Reply with quote

CryptopsyBodom wrote:
Ryu_Hiragoshi wrote:
Reality


lmfao, someone actually remembered my little POS Simfile laugh.gif i'd love to see someone actually pass it... i made it just to be BS


Well, IMHO I'd think that reality would need to be a prerequisite for blur. Anybody that can pass blur should have no problem with reality.
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9. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um no.

the end of that song has like 3x more arrows than drum beats.

they're also going at a speed of about 3200 arrows per minute, singles. Which is 53.3 taps each second. I can do like....barely half that? Its 110% totally IMPOSSIBLE.

And my friend, blur is only 960 APM E13.gif
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10. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phrekwenci wrote:
No, I've done it too when people were asking how I AA'ed BMR's V with one hand and 2 fingers.

I never saw that. I must have not been paying enough attention when you posted it riiight.gif

Depending on the song, I'll either play one handed (index and middle finger) or two handed (I've only just started playing this way... I use the index finger on my left hand and the index and middle fingers of my right) I'm not exactly brilliant two handed, but I can pass things that I couldn't pass one handed...
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11. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reach wrote:
Um no.

the end of that song has like 3x more arrows than drum beats.

they're also going at a speed of about 3200 arrows per minute, singles. Which is 53.3 taps each second. I can do like....barely half that? Its 110% totally IMPOSSIBLE.

And my friend, blur is only 960 APM E13.gif


OMFG!!!!

I could never have known what a demon that song is. Blur, is nothing compared to reality. I'm still trying to pick my jaw up off the ground.

If anyone could pass that song they couldn't be human. No fingering technique could ever work on a song like that. That song is best left up to monsters or androids or something other than a human at least. riiight.gif
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12. PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reach wrote:
Um no.

the end of that song has like 3x more arrows than drum beats.

they're also going at a speed of about 3200 arrows per minute, singles. Which is 53.3 taps each second. I can do like....barely half that? Its 110% totally IMPOSSIBLE.

And my friend, blur is only 960 APM E13.gif


Well my friend please give me the equation that calculates APR and button taps. I'd like a better way of measuring(sp?) speed than just using BPM. I meant to post this yesterday but forgot. Thanks!!!

edit: By the way reach, could you post a video of you doing blur. I still think that song is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!! Those jumps in that song are so fast that they look like they are blending together. shocked.gif

I wouldn't believe that anyone could pass this song until I see it with my own eyes.
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13. PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't run a webcam and run stepmania. my pc is only 750 mgh dude, even if i double setup it ill probably still fail with that much lag.

spazzbite can do it though...bunch of people saw.

and getting apm is easy.

BPMxarrow speed.

To get the arrow speed? just use note skin or check the editor. 8ths are blue...16ths are yellow...24ths are purple and 32nds are orange. 8ths=2 taps per beat, 16=4, 24=6 and 32 is 8.

so, take payon for example. the gargle run is all 32nd notes (orange)

BPM(90)x8(32nds)= 720. that gives you a pretty average speed. it can be hard to calculate on songs that change around alot...or have gaps between notes and stuff..but yea, it gives you a good idea.

blur(480)x2(8ths)= 960.
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I play single handedly with 3 fingers, and I use my thumb sometimes for vertical jumps riiight.gif
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15. PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use four fingers... The index and middle of my left and right hand.

This topic just seems....dirty.... E15.gif
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16. PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reach wrote:
...only 960 APM ;)


quote of the day.
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17. PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phrekwenci wrote:
-Joe- wrote:
What kind of idiot records themself playing SM...
Oh yeah, ME!


No, I've done it too when people were asking how I AA'ed BMR's V with one hand and 2 fingers.

But now reach is here and no one cares about me. =P


whoaness!

Can you post the link, or is it not hosted?
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18. PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to just play two handed...something like 4 or 5 fingers but they kept running into each other. I now play with two sets of arrows.

WAS&D and The arrow keys. I've had people actually tell me this is cheating but honestly...I'm not trying to impress anyone but myself here.
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PxDnAkumA wrote:
I used to just play two handed...something like 4 or 5 fingers but they kept running into each other. I now play with two sets of arrows.

WAS&D and The arrow keys. I've had people actually tell me this is cheating but honestly...I'm not trying to impress anyone but myself here.


I have a friend who plays like that. Mind you she isn't very good, but that fact of the matter is that she plays with with two keys for each hand.

You'll never hear a complaint coming from because I would think that it would make it easier on your hands for really,really hard songs.

Plus, I think it's an amazing way to play quite honestly.
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