Actual DDR calories... Like with a competitive playstyle.

[Moonbeam Funk]

Lately I've been eating too little, mainly because I don't include DDR/ITG in my idea of how much exercise I do in a day because it's a game, so it doesn't feel like exercise.

Anyhow I'm beginning to wonder how much the game actually burns... And I'm not talking about any of those online studies, or the calorie counter in the home-versions... I'm talking if you flat-foot, if you don't move a lot. I'm also curious as to the difference of no-bar vs. bar calorie burn. Obviously it's different for different weights...

I was wondering if a study has been done on competitive players or if anyone has any idea. If not I'd totally like to do one, but I don't really know how.
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[Nathan.]

100 calories per arrow


or so i hear

[Suko]

I can only speak from my personal experience, but when I play ITG 2 (arcade), I take the total number of calories it says I burned (2,000) and divide it by 5, or 6 (depending on the intensity of my playing). So, if I played 9's for an hour and the machine said I burned 2000 cals, I assume it's closer to 400 or so. If I spent 1 hour playing 7's and it says I burned 2000, I divide it by 6, and assume 340 cals or so. These numbers I gave in my examples are all completely random and made up.

I'm 6'7" tall, so my calculations are probably completely whack compared to a normal person. So this is by no means scientific, but based off estimates for "aerobic dance" and similar activities I've seen documented on websites, it seems to be fairly accurate for me.
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[DahrkDaiz]

Want to really know how many calories you burn when you play DDR? Don't pay attention to the calorie counters and there is definitely no direct arrow to calorie ratio. I guarantee you I burned more calories playing B4U Light as a newb than I do playing Colors Heavy today. It's all about getting your heart rate up. Take your heart rate before a song (you have 90 seconds to choose a song, start counting with 60 seconds left). At the end of the song, count your heart rate a 2nd time, divide it by 2, this gives you a very rough estimate of what your average heart rate was during the entire song. on your second song, your heart rate will be much higher than your first, thus, your average will be higher. Next, plug in your heart rates into this formula

Using VO2max
Men: C/min = (-59.3954 + (-36.3781 + 0.271 x age + 0.394 x weight + 0.404 x VO2max + 0.634 x HR))/4.184
Women: C/min = (-59.3954 + (0.274 x age + 0.103 x weight + 0.380 x VO2max + 0.450 x HR)) / 4.184

Without VO2max
Men: C/min = (-55.0969 + 0.6309 x HR + 0.1988 x weight + 0.2017 x age) / 4.184
Women: C/min = (-20.4022 + 0.4472 x HR - 0.1263 x weight + 0.074 x age) / 4.184

to get a Calories (that's 1000 tiny calories, food is measured in Calories, 1,000 calories each) burned per minute. I usually take my heart rate before, between and after my games and use the average as the total amount of calories I burned for the session. Obviously, playing non-stop mode is more strenuous on your heart and can be more beneficial. Notice that your heart rate may dip as low as 120 bpm by playing just 7 footers, depending on your skill. I can get my heart rate up to 180bpm. This can be dangerous, but if you don't keep it up there and do it in bursts (like 1:30, how convenient, eh?) you should be fine.

[Moonbeam Funk]

Interesting. You'd think intense ITG then is really, really good for calorie-burn because it's a lot like HIIT. Burst of high heart rate, some rest before the next song. It's really hard for me to get my heart-rate up playing anything on DDR (I'm a runner...), but a good deal of ITG songs do it for me.
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[ranatalus]

it's also helpful to learn the difference between kCal and normal calories.

also, there are too many different factors to consider to be able to accurately say how much you burn. do you play on your toes, or flat footed? do you use the bar? how much time do you take in between songs?

playing a 4-song nonstop course will probably burn more than playing 2 full sets normally, taking your time in between songs to select new songs/mods.

best exercise possible would be world tour doubles
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[Xanthros]

I'm pretty certain you'd burn more calories per minute barring a 15 than no barring any ddr song.

Using times from when I ran track, my VO2max is probably somewhere between 51 and 56. i got 56 for my mile time and 51 for my 5k time. I'm also not in the same shape I was then lol. So 54 is pretty good I'd say! I assume girls' would be naturally lower. You must run a lot...how much?
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[Da-Risin-Smoke]

The more sets with less weights will burn more calories.

Because it results to nearly cardio/endurance.

Lifting more is similar to isometrics, hardly any movement.
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I hate those freakin studies, should say sumpthin along the lines of "the average n00b who wasn't getting much out of the game burned an average of x calories."
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[Nathan.]

This thread really isn't going anywhere.

There's too many variables to give be able to predict with accuracy how many calories you'll burn on anything, just as Steve said.

[Moonbeam Funk]

I don't think there are too many variables to get a decent estimate. To begin with I'm talking about the typical new-gen players, or since this is for myself mostly... People who play like I do... Mostly flat, bar. Other than that the only major variable is weight. For example running I know that generally, I burn about 100 cal / mile. It increases with weight. If they can figure that out, I'm sure they could figure out dancing games too...
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[Nathan.]

difficulty of song

break between song

flat foot / toes

bar / no bar

age

weight

height

sex

type of pad (me heel toe'ing on my home pad is significantly different than how I heel-toe on garbage Konami pads)

must I go on?

Also the thing with the heart rate is dumb. I did ITG2 for a talent show on Friday night and I can guarantee you my heart rate was through the roof thanks to all the adrenaline rushing through my legs and I can guarantee you I didn't burn significantly more/less calories, and if i did it sure as hell didn't feel like it. ugh. But yeah situations like that would throw that little equation down the shitter.

[ranatalus]