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LonerBoi Trick Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Location: Longmont CO |
0. Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:03 am Post subject: freestylers vs. heavy steppers |
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which do u perfer? the ddr'ers who can lik bust out FS on slower songs (to say) or the ddr'ers who play all heavy songs?? and tell me why.
for me i perfer the freestyle'ers, cause to me, that shows skillz. it shows to me that, the ddr'ers put some time to memorize, study, and look nice when they dance.
but like for the heavy steppers, they have skillz, but none that i care about. i care about style. what about u?? _________________
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Phrekwenci Administrator
Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Location: New York, NY |
1. Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:21 am Post subject: |
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In the beginning I used to just be into combo'ing out a song, but then after a horrid tournament loss, I went went to freestyling. I was really good at it so I continued, but I realized it was a lot of work just to have someone favor you in their opinion. So, now I just recently turned PA and I don't think I am that half bad at it now. _________________
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The Platinum Jedi Trick Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Location: The Bay Area (510) |
2. Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:33 am Post subject: |
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What Up Everyone!
Hmmm...I there was a crowd of people watching me, I should freestyle because you are showing your style! but I wished I could freestyle though!
Normally I'm more of a technical player and I like playing that way because it's good excercise for me since I'm tying to lose weight. Hey this game gives you a better sweat than going to the gym and getting bored stepping on the stair master or bike, whatever. Yeeeaa!
Gerald _________________
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TEEX Trick Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Location: getting killed by rubber ducks in Silversurfer (NES) |
3. Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I tried freestyle once, but I just looked like a crackhead and made an idiot out of myself. That's why I stick to technical PA. I'll stealth occasionally, but not try to do any "moves." |
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Beginning N¡gger Trick Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Location: Behind the starting line |
4. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:52 am Post subject: Re: freestylers vs. heavy steppers |
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LonerBoi wrote: | which do u perfer? the ddr'ers who can lik bust out FS on slower songs (to say) or the ddr'ers who play all heavy songs??
for me i perfer the freestyle'ers, cause to me, that shows skillz. it shows to me that, the ddr'ers put some time to memorize, study, and look nice when they dance. |
Well, like you said, freestylers can only play relativily slow songs, and have to memorize the song, what fun is that?
As to a heavy player just going all out with his fast moving feet, not having to worry about if the song is to fast for me to look nice.
Freestylers, in my opinion have no skills, just egos. Its just a way to get attention and show-off, you can't say that for a heavy player, because they challenge themselves with faster songs, unless they brag like our #1 player here in El Paso Texas
Sorry if you think I went to far or if you got offended, I was just stating my view, holding back just a bit.
Oh and when I hear and see a person freestyle PSM on oni, then I'll concede onto the freestyle side. |
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Mark Trick Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, CA |
5. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:25 am Post subject: |
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I would prefer to watch a decent freestyler over someone who can just play heavy, but I find PA more of a challenge than freestyle. |
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DJ sephi spin those discs Trick Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Location: Austin, TX |
6. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Mark wrote: | I would prefer to watch a decent freestyler over someone who can just play heavy, but I find PA more of a challenge than freestyle. |
i agree. _________________
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DDRmaniacplayer Trick Member
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Location: Chandler, AZ |
7. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I would actually prefer someone who can do both well. I play heavy songs and I occasionally freestyle in some songs. But, It would be nice if someone can be well-rounded and do both. |
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LonerBoi Trick Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Location: Longmont CO |
8. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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nope. im not offended. you should of just went all out. but i can understand what you're saying though. alot of freestyle movies i see, alot of people act like a dumbasses. but then there are some who like, take freestyling seriously. studying all the steps. puting time to do certian moves on certain steps. and so on and so on. _________________
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Beginning N¡gger Trick Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Location: Behind the starting line |
9. Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: |
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LonerBoi wrote: | nope. im not offended. you should of just went all out. but i can understand what you're saying though. alot of freestyle movies i see, alot of people act like a dumbasses. but then there are some who like, take freestyling seriously. studying all the steps. puting time to do certian moves on certain steps. and so on and so on. |
Yes, you are right, I forgot about the real freestylers, ones that utilize the whole machine. In El Paso, Texas, we don't have any hardcore freestylers. We have the ones that turn around during runs, jumps of Afronova, and do circles on Frozen Ray I believe. Nothing exactly skillful. |
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Pop'n Usagi! Trick Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Location: Your mum |
10. Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer technical PA. Simply because, if you want to look good dancing, why are you doing it on a video game? Why not go to a club? Technical players are playing the game, and high scores look better to me than a great routine.. People that can mix freestyle moves in *with* their combo/perfect attack are the ones that get my attention.. Like I saw a guy a few days ago mixing floorwork in and getting a high combo on Dead End heavy. That was impressive. _________________
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The Game II Contributor
Joined: 06 Mar 2002 Location: Long Beach or Glendale, CA |
11. Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I love seeing anyone that can freestyle well. I also like seeing technical players. Each bring a different kind of special to the table. There is skill in coming up with a dance on the fly. There also is skill in trying to SDG or AAA a song on heavy or standard.
While I was once tilted toward technical players, I figure they're both equally good.
--GCII _________________
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LonerBoi Trick Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Location: Longmont CO |
12. Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I love to see freestylers, but not like the dumbasses you know. But 1st things 1st, what are technical players?? HAHA. There are only heavy steppers at my place, and like me and my brother are the only freestylers so far.
Heavy steppers I would consider very good, but I want to see actual skills I guess. And I have never seen anyone try and do PA. They always do, heavy steppers, new beginers, or uhhh heavy steppers. _________________
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Joined: 21 Dec 2003 Location: Longmont-Colorado |
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QHeretic (^0^)\m/! YATTA Trick Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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14. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:43 am Post subject: |
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I know exactly how you feel, PA'ers have the scores, freestylers just look good...and they don't necessarily have to memorize every song they play on... sometimes I'll just random light shuffle a song and improv something to it, but not as a serious routine... it's just more fun.
Anyway to solve the problem of being called a no-skill freestyler at the same time, I usually bust out the MAX300 heavy after 2 FS runs, or something to show I'm not just BS'ing my way through the game ...although for people who don't have any idea what DDR is, they wonder what the hell I'm doing that 3rd time cause it breaks the flow. I figure being a little well rounded is good though, I'm not the best PA'er (I'm happy just passing hard songs, latest achievement passing Para Survivor on heavy and Cartoon Heroes heavy), and I like to focus more on freestyle, but either way I'm havin fun really.
And on the matter of a lot of "assholing" in freestyle routines, yeah I've seen a lot of more recent videos and they're starting to degrade to cheap inside jokes between the judges and the performers, and these usually result in the contestant winning the competition it would seem. Though you still get spectacular performances that aren't just cheap blows, you know, ones that the person really shows they put a lot of time into (JTF's Last Message struck me that way). Sometimes I've watched some routines and wondered how they got any positive scores at all, let alone placed o_O... (not gonna name any names though). Because to me, STOMPSTOMPSTOMPSTOMPSTOMP (insert joke no one gets here) STOMPSTOMPSTOMP isn't a routine to me. It's something I could throw together in 2 seconds if I knew the judges _________________
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Ryu_Hirakashi Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Middle River, MD |
15. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:20 am Post subject: |
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First off, what's up with the term" Heavy Steppers"???
It just sounds sort of dorky. I don't know. It's sure is funny as hell when I say it to myself.
Anyway, I'm all for tech play. Last time I checked DDR wasn't a dancing game so I don't know why everyone calls it that!!!
All you are doing is just keeping beat with your feet rather than your hands as opposed to (insert any other bemani game here).
It just seems like people lack so much originality when it comes to FS'ing. I guess I've seen too many improve routines. But the idea of FS'ing just sounds kind of dumb to me when considering that it practically goes against what you are really supposed to be doing.
Besides I'd pay money to see monster PA'ing than FS'ing any day of the week. It's just 1000 times more impressive.
Ryu Hiragoshi _________________
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QHeretic (^0^)\m/! YATTA Trick Member
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16. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't pay to see either ...whatchu talkin' bout!?
Unless it was a REALLY REALLY good freestyle performance... but PA is just boring to watch now... it's kinda like... oh wow...another AAA... yay. *Walks away*... And DDR is whatever you want it to be... it can be a technical game, a dancing game (hence the name -DANCE- dance -REVOLUTION- .... REVALOTIEON!!!@%$!), a picnic mat (not recommended), a rave stage, a stripping pole, a jungle gym, a seizure machine, or a jukebox...
Personally, if it's not in a competition, FS doesn't need to be all that original in my opinion. It's your time to do whatever you wanna do... but when you get into that tourney scene, you know if you aren't performing your own work, someone's gonna call you on it/you aren't likely to win. _________________
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NuRiFrEeStYlEBoY Trick Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Location: escondido, ca. sd freestylers represent!! |
17. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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i'm a freestyler, so i luv to see otherz freestyle and bust out stuff and use that in rutines. But i love to see people bust fatty comobs trough the hole song and get AAA's. I used to be a tech person, but then i reolized that i was too fat so i decited to freestyle, but i enjoy both but freestyle more _________________
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-joe- Trick Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Location: lv |
18. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Im a 'both'er!!!
ok, im disgusting at freestyling (really bad), im decent at hard songs... so yeah, im a bother!
i mainly like to improv light songs, but my improv just consists of spinning and hand drops, not like phrek who can liquid and lock to any song he wants, yes, including psmo _________________
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19. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Never really even dabbled in freestyling, so I guess I'm a PA'er. _________________
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