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Do you define DDR greatness based on tournaments?
 
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0. PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: Do you define DDR greatness based on tournaments? Reply with quote

I just wonder about this, because I know a lot of great DDR players that have not competed in tournaments. Actually, I should say that I know a lot of current players that have not competed in tournaments, yet they are very good.

But it seems as if many players' status/rankings is determined by what they do or what they've done in tournaments. Like, someone will say, "Player sumphin is awesome cuz she got 5 greats on Max300 at Eat My Shorts DDR tournament at blah land last month."

Do you define greatness based on how people do in tournaments or how people do in regular everyday playing? If two people each have AAAed So Deep heavy, is one player better IYO because they've done it in a tournament?

I'm curious to hear what you all have to say.

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1. PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, an AAA is an AAA no matter when you get it. But stuff you do in a tournament is definitely more visible, ie more people will see you do it. This gets the word out faster and farther.

Tournaments are interesting though because your personal best scores are more or less irrelevant. You can have a bad day on a song that you've AAA'd and lose to somebody that's never AAA'd it, or you can fluke out and beat somebody who has. Tournament results depend more on your consistency than your peak performance.

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2. PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing something at a tournament isn't better than doing the same thing on some random Monday. Also, because someone gets first place at a tournament doesn't mean they're the best that entered the tournament. It's all about if someone is having a good day or not.
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3. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I define greatness by Diversity of play and attitude. Sure people are good at PA but it really comes down to being good at it all, this includes GA, Great-A, FS, doubles etc... Also the/she has to be having fun or they will gain nothing from it.
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4. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, a record beaten by an athlete on training has no value where it has in a stadium. there is no diference in terms of personal acomplishement, it's all about recognition.
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5. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me DDR greatness is more of the Attitude you have, I mean it would kinda suck meeting up with a pretty awesome ddr player who can make AAA's on some songs, and find out theyre pretty snobby and rude. But really It's how well you compete in the tourney, there are other good ddr players out there and probably better then some you know right now. But some people don't like publicity all that much.
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6. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, cause it's more visible to a crowd and maybe a big audiance than just playing at your local arcade when your really just playing for fun/practicing. An AAA is an AAA no matter how you get it, if you do it at a tourney people are capable of knowing how good you are than where you play when maybe no one is around. I define greatness by seeing what they accomplished/witnessed/observed at a tourney or where they play.
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7. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting question. I too have seen many great DDR players who have never bothered to enter a tournament. Some just aren't aware of DDR tournaments, some just don't really want to "get into the scene", so to speak.

I think people become "famous", so to speak, in the DDR community based off tournament performance because of the mass exposure you get from tournaments of vairying scale. If you AAA a catastrophic level song while you're by yourself with your buddies at the arcade, you'd probably feel a lot of self-accomplishment, and you'd probably get compliments from your friends and that would be that. But if you're dealing with a person who is quite humble, you may never hear about that accomplishment. However, in a tournament where 200 people are watching, if a difficult song gets AAA'ed or whatever, then people who are mightly impressed by that fact might go home and tell a friend. Or even post on a DDR discussion forum "OMGZ DID J00 SEE THAT GUY AAA SAKURA MANIAC TODAY!!!!!!!11". So thusly words spread pretty quickly, and sometimes you have that game of telephone going on where everyone adds to the story in their own unique way. Suddenly, "that guy" AAA'ed the song with his eyes closed hopping on one foot E10.gif

With freestyle, the internet accentuates this even more. Because almost every tournament these days has videos available soon afterwards. Those routines that generate "the buzz" are likely to get downloaded by lots of people, and suddenly that freestylers name is much more likely to be recgonized later.

So, AAAing a song at a tournament is a great accomplishement. But AAAing a song when it's just you and your buddies is a great accomplishment too. It's just that more people are likely to turn their heads and notice when you do it at a tournament. Does that mean you are not great if you can accomplish this when noone is watching? Not at all E1.gif . I encourage everyone to play to impress themselves, and not other people. If you're feeling great because you just passed your first 5 footer today, then well, you're not likely to be a ddr scene celebrity because of it but... guess what-- you're still great! Who cares what anyone else thinks anyway? E1.gif
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8. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its hard to rank someone that has never been to a tournament but i bet that the greatest ddr player in the world is some person (notice no guy or girl) that has an arcade machine at home and never goes to play at arcades.
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9. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qzar Mystik wrote:
No, I define greatness by Diversity of play and attitude. Sure people are good at PA but it really comes down to being good at it all, this includes GA, Great-A, FS, doubles etc... Also the/she has to be having fun or they will gain nothing from it.


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i bet that the greatest ddr player in the world is some person (notice no guy or girl) that has an arcade machine at home and never goes to play at arcades.


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10. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qzar Mystik wrote:
No, I define greatness by Diversity of play and attitude. Sure people are good at PA but it really comes down to being good at it all, this includes GA, Great-A, FS, doubles etc... Also the/she has to be having fun or they will gain nothing from it.


I am a the and I consider myself pretty good at boo attack which I notice you left off your list. I think the only reason you don't think it's good is because you suck at it.
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11. PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, I difine DDR greatness on tourneys. I say this, because if your really good and you don't compete. Then you don't really know if your really good. I thought I was one of the best until I joined this website and I find out that I'm just one of the millions of average players out there. That's why I difine DDR greatness on tourneys. It's just my opinion.
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