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0. PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:50 pm    Post subject: The REAL Deal... Reply with quote

Does anyone know where to purchase an ACTUAL arcade doubles platform? I don't mean home made metal versions, I mean a replica or actual arcade pad. I've scoured the net but can't seem to find anywhere to get one, short of buying an ENTIRE DDR machine for $3-6G.

Just wondering if anyone has seen anything like this...

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1. PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www2.gvsu.edu/~brittedg/DDRPlatform.html
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3. PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidbrit2 wrote:
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http://www2.gvsu.edu/~brittedg/DDRPlatform.html

Why you can't just buy an arcade DDR platform and hook it to your Playstation...

It's a very simple matter of pad electronics. Each individual panel has 4 analog pressure sensors. They don't act as normal switches, but rather, send an analog signal that tells how hard they are being pressed. These sensors are all hooked to an analog I/O board inside the platform itself. This analog board can be programmed to respond with different sensitivities. This analog board is then connected to the cabinet itself, and it uses serial data transmission of some sort. It might be similar to the PSX protocol, since they seem to use the same number of wires, but in all likelihood, I'm sure it's different enough to be incompatible.

To review:
-The pad does not just have simple switches that you could wire to a normal PSX controller.
-The I/O controller that does read the sensors uses a custom serial transmission protocol.
-Unless you're an electronics engineer, it ain't gonna happen.



According to Kundoggy, the switches are simply on/off switches.
He says that he has modded his arcade" solo pad that was bought from channel beat for use with playstation and usb controllers.
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4. PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmm, I don't know about that... I'll check the service menu sometime. I know that you can adjust the sensitivity of the analog to digital I/O controller, so if they're really just simple on/off switches, that wouldn't be possible.

Solo pads might be different from the standard twin pads, though.

Another possibility is that you could just connect the pressure sensors like switches, and lowering the resistance with enough pressure would be adequate for making the controller respond.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an electronics engineer at my disposal, but regardless, Channelbeat doesn't appear to sell double pads, just entire machines.

I'm looking into other ways to get this done, but I might even need to simply hand over the design to a machine shop and ask for a quote.

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