Getting AA's with 1.5 mod, fair?

[Sammarco7]

Does anyone get their AA's with mods that make it easier like 1.5 and play them off like AA's. I don't really think getting a AA with 1.5 speed is a AA because it very much takes away the difficulty of some songs. The difficulty factor in many songs is based on the fact that they are close together and hard to read. 1.5 makes them far apart and much easier to differentiate. I have 34 AA's on Max2 with 1.0 speed and a bunch in Max1 too and have learned everyone i know uses 1.5 and just says they are AA's. I feel 1.5 speed makes it a different category all together, just like how heavy and Standard are seperate, not to that extent of course. What do you all think, does 1.5 count just as 1.0?, i don't think so.

[Slowpoke]

[Sammarco7]

No, you don't get it. The point i'm not trying to make is you should play on 1.0 because it's harder. If 1.5 is more fun for you go for it. I'm making the point that a AA on 1.0 is harder than a AA on 1.5, making it a more impressive accomplishment. This also means that someone that used 1.5 and got more AA's than somone with less AA's but used 1.0, isn't necessarily better. It's pretty much implied that if you say i got a AA and don't say Standard or Heavy or something you mean Heavy. If someone got a AA on Tsugaru in max2 i would assume they did it on heavy, and with no modifiers.

[Mark]

If you love 1.0x so much, then go play Oni.

Otherwise, any modifers in regular play are "fair".

[Sammarco7]

Ga, no one agrees with me, i'm not saying that it's more noble or what you should do. I'm just saying it is harder. Like if you got a AA on standard you wouldn't just say i got a AA on "insert song", you'd be like i got a AA on "insert song" in standard. Why would you say that, because it's obviously not as hard a task as AA that song in heavy. 1.0 is the normal way the game is supposed to be played. It's just like playing some video game with low gravity, maybe it's the same difficulty leve, but it still drastically affects how you play the game and can make it much easier. Do you really think AA on 1.5 is the same as 1.0, because i'm pretty sure 1.5 is easier. Just like Stealth is harder and more of an accomplishment than just without mod?[/b]

[justoneuncle]

[AcidBurnISU]

It might be harder, it might not. Who really cares, if I am having fun I really don't care what someone else thinks, and if your having fun playing on 1x why do you need to try and make yourself feel better because someone else doesnt?

[XxVeilsidexX]

it doesn't matter what speed you read it at. a AA is based on your percentage of perfects. You could read Maxx Unlimited at x5 and it won't matter unless you can PA well.

Modifiers are there to help you read arrows, thats it. your AA's are based on percentage of Perfects (or if you full comboed the song on home version US). So yes, modifiers are fair play.
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[Sammarco7]

[Sammarco7]

But my friends play 1.5 because it's easier, it lets them get more AA's. Bingo, that's it, the're doing it because it's easier. the game isn't just about Getting perfects, it's about being able to read and react to arrows very close together and in seemingly random orders, that is why it's called heavy mode, that's why so deep is so hard. Another analogy, if you use a code to get unlimited ammo in some game, yes you're still beating the game, but no, it doesn't compare to beating the game without infinite ammo. I'm not trying to dis 1.5 or anything, sure it can be more fun for some people and more power to them, but doesn't anyone think that it is something different?

[BTTB]

Advice: It's called the edit button. Use THAT instead of the post reply button every time you want to say something if it's relevant to your post.
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[invincible1]

I agree with you, i do not like speed mods, i think its an unfair advantage to people who dont use them and play the game it was meant to be played. Yes it was meant to be played on 1x go look at 5th mix and below i dont see any 2x 1.5x on that. Anyway this is just going to be another debate on whether speed mods should be allowed or not and im sure everyone is sick of it. For the people that say 1.5x isnt easier though you have to be out of your mind. Look at 90% of AAA's what are they on. 1.5x if i played on 1.5x im sure i would have alot more AAA's then I have now but i choose not to because thats just the way I want to play, I want to play the way it was originally played, the harder way. People that play with speed mods want to make the game easier, they probably have more fun that way. People who play s4r have mastered most of the game and want to make it even more difficult. No matter what its in the game and we must deal with it. Just enter a tournament if you dont like speed mods, they usually cant be used there

[GR]

I think that the best you can do on a song as far as speeding it up and down, is leaving it at its normal pace. If a guy plays Bag with no mods and gets an A and another guy plays it with 5x and gets a AA, I give more props to the first (non-mod) guy.
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[kablooie13]

Its just a matter of what people will think. I say that to have truly AA'ed a song you have to have AA'ed it without mods...but thats just me.
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never mind its not worth getting banned over

[Adamn]

Double-A'ing tends to be easier when the arrows are more easy to read.

Slow / tightly packed songs are good examples, like My Summer Love, or Bag, or Justify my Love. Hell, even Remember You.

Whether it's a matter of comfort or a matter of ease is irrelevant... it is, simply, easier to AA/AAA on 1.5x than it is to AA/AAA on 1x, for most people. Every post I've seen to the contrary is just an extreme case of trying to distract the original poster's intent of pointing this out.

Sammarco7, I agree with you.

[justoneuncle]

[sutoraiku.kuruza]

[Irish.MTA (Retired?)]

If speed mods don't count, I think I'm looking at my "cleared heavy songs" count dropping below 20. With speed mods, I have a nice 200+ AA count. I'm gonna have to go ahead and say that if the machine said you got a AA, you got a AA.

-Irish
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[kablooie13]

1.5x makes it easier? Not for every song! I don't see how making Max 300 scroll even faster makes it easier
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