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0. PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Negative BPM's Reply with quote
How exactly do negative BPM's work?
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1. PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
They make you jump from one part of the chart to another. It jumps farther depending on what the number is. But sometimes they just make it scroll backwards. It's happened to me before >.< Anyway, you can see a good example of negative BPM's in action in Tsupseudogamush.
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2. PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You never want negative bpm's in your stepfiles unless you want them to go on forever.
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3. PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
with my experience, sm can't read a negative bpm, and as such will skip any parts with negative bpms. you can do some fun tricks with this, such as having arrows turn into mines and steps coming out of nowhere.

a quick warning for other itg hackers: trying to play a song with a negative bpm trick on a hax cab will crash the machine.
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4. PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
#Infinity wrote:
You never want negative bpm's in your stepfiles unless you want them to go on forever.

I don't see how it could make them go on forever. Explain.
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5. PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
videoCWK wrote:
#Infinity wrote:
You never want negative bpm's in your stepfiles unless you want them to go on forever.

I don't see how it could make them go on forever. Explain.

if you have a negative bpm with no positive bpm after it in the file, sm will attempt to jump forward to the next legit bpm and, since that doesn't exist, it'll essentially just keep going.
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6. PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My simfile of Disconnected Zeo apparantly has negative BPMs, and I can verify this information.
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7. PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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videoCWK wrote:
#Infinity wrote:
You never want negative bpm's in your stepfiles unless you want them to go on forever.

I don't see how it could make them go on forever. Explain.

if you have a negative bpm with no positive bpm after it in the file, sm will attempt to jump forward to the next legit bpm and, since that doesn't exist, it'll essentially just keep going.


Hm, maybe that's why all my negative BPM simfiles are screwed up. Thanks!
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8. PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
does anybody have a video or some sort of visual aid in this quest to figure out what negative BPM is?
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9. PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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does anybody have a video or some sort of visual aid in this quest to figure out what negative BPM is?


1. Go to the StepMania website

2. Go to the songs page

3. Download Tsupseudogamush

4. Install Tsupseudogamush

5. Play Tsupseudogamush

6. Stick a note to your computer screen that says "If a thread is less then a page long, read all the posts before asking a question"
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