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Should Mythology have been changed to an 11, or remained a 10?
It should have been changed to an 11; it's harder then Charlene and Xuxa
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It should have remained a 10; it's easier then Tension and Sweet World
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0. PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Should Mythology be an 11? Reply with quote

I'm going to do a series of polls evaluating the changes in song difficulty from ITG1 to ITG2 (Mythology was changed from a 10 to an 11). This is the first:
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1. PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, I dont agree with either of those things next to the poll options. Mythology I dont think is harder than charlene or xuxa, but it is not easier than tension or sweet world.
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2. PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Mythology harder than Charlene but not Xuxa.


Still I guess I'll go with the whole staying as what it is thing even though I don't agree with the statements.
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3. PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Charlene and Xuxa to be very easy 11s. I am consistent on those two songs and can pass them easily.

I think Mythology is more difficult than Charlene and Xuxa. It should be an 11 and it is good as is.
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4. PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passing wise I suppose Mythology is harder than Xuxa. Scoring I find the two similar yet Mythology slightly easier.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it should have stayed a 10. A hard 10, but still a 10. And charlene should be a ten too.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythology is definately an 11... my feelings on Tension aside, the ending is just way too hard for 10 material. I think it is harder than: Charlene, Xuxa, Utopia, Vertex^2 hard, Clockwork Genesis, Robotix, and Infection, making it about a moderate-moderate hard 11. As far as sweet world goes, I think it is definately harder than SW.... the only other 10's I think that compare to it (and many other 11's as well) are Soapy Bubble and Know Your Enemy.
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7. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythology is definitely hard enough to be pushed into the 11 range, although I am pretty consistent with my score on it (compared to other 10s and 11s).
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8. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's one of the hardest 11s for me, but then again I'm embarassingly bad with crossovers.
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9. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted 11.
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10. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote that Mythology should still be a 11. IMO, Mythology is one of the easier 11's. It is harder than Charlene and Xuxa, yet much easier than July, Hardcore Symphony and Pandemonium(H).
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11. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I STILL can't no bar Mythology, but I can easily no bar Charlene, Utopia, Vertex, and all the other 10s frust.gif . IT NEEDS TO BE AN 11!!! devil.gif
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12. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voted 11. Passed Charlene, Xuxa, Robotix, Clockwork Genesis (in no particular order), and no pass on Mythology. I can't speak for how easy it is to score.
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13. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, mythology is not so bad, to the end run, wich is not so evil (IMO), i almost passed it (never passed another 11 before) with some praticew i should be able to do it XD (but still remain for an 11, but easier than charlene IMO)
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14. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you say Charlene is harder than Mythology?

They're like the same speed, but Mythology has even more jumps and crossovers all over it.
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15. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said IMO ¬¬ Never saif it was true, i'm maybe totally wrong, BUT, i know that charlene is hard BECAUSE i tried it, (can get to the middle - 3/4) and, IMO, mythology has all the streams at the end, charlene have them all over the song, so i'd say that charlene is harder because it drain you at the begining, at the middle and at the end, and mithology (for me, i don't find the jumps so draining, but that's me ^^) is only draining at the end, that's it E10.gif (it's not because there are more jumps that they are harder you know?)
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16. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half the song of Mythology is basically jumps. That's draining. Then it goes down to a crazy crossover fest of arrows at its end. Yeah, that's a pretty difficult song (that's pretty fun too.)
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17. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeldy2 wrote:
I said IMO ¬¬ Never saif it was true, i'm maybe totally wrong, BUT, i know that charlene is hard BECAUSE i tried it, (can get to the middle - 3/4) and, IMO, mythology has all the streams at the end, charlene have them all over the song, so i'd say that charlene is harder because it drain you at the begining, at the middle and at the end, and mithology (for me, i don't find the jumps so draining, but that's me ^^) is only draining at the end, that's it E10.gif (it's not because there are more jumps that they are harder you know?)


ok couple things.... Chalene is slower than Mythology, and the 16ths are in extremely easy step patterns. That's key. And the fact that they are spread out all over the song like you said actually makes them easier, because they aren't all in one gigantic 30 second non stop section of doom. I could do those 16ths in Charlene nonstop throughout the song and it still wouldn't be as hard as the end of Mythology... the addition of many tough crossovers into 16th runs makes a HUGE difference.

Just because Mythology is only draining at the end to you doesn't mean it's easier, you have to actually be able to do the steps first in order to decide whether the song's overall drain is a factor. I know you throw the whole "opinion" thing here, but I just don't think this is arguable. In the end, Mythology is much harder to pass and takes more effort to perform, fact. Once you can pass both consistently you should have a better view on this, but for now you're only basing your Mythology argument on the relative ease of most of the song, as if it cancels out how hard the end is. A slight exaggeration to clarify... a song could be a 3 footer for a minute and 40 seconds for all i care, but if the last 20 seconds goes all 12 footer on my ass, i'm calling it a 12 footer.
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18. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh. Mythology's a 90, the other 10's are 95's+

So...11 it be
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19. PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to passing, Tension and Sweet World are easier than Mythology for me.

Now scoring is a little different. I don't know HOW your guys' FA keeps up with weird gallop jumps and 32nd drills (Sweet World) or relentless jumps with gimmick drills (Tension)

In summary, I passed Mythology last but I have the best score on it. (83.XX)
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