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Joei
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0.  Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: DDR + Ankle weights |
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Has anyone here tried playing DDR w/ ankle weigths?
I've currently going with 2.5lb on each foot. It seriously drains you after a couple songs. After a couple weeks of that, I've found that my speed and stamina improved quite a bit (not really surprising...)
Has anyone here tried DDRin with weights and experienced something similar . Also anyone possibly thinking about trying?
Opinions? Questions?
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| 1. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: DDR + Ankle weights |
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| Joei wrote: | Has anyone here tried playing DDR w/ ankle weigths?
I've currently going with 2.5lb on each foot. It seriously drains you after a couple songs. After a couple weeks of that, I've found that my speed and stamina improved quite a bit (not really surprising...)
Has anyone here tried DDRin with weights and experienced something similar . Also anyone possibly thinking about trying?
Opinions? Questions?
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Whoa... Nice one... I'll probably try that sometime since my stamina bites.
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| 2. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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If you do that, you run the risk of straining a muscle or tendon. Sudden, jerking movements (could be caused by you realizing you're about to miss a note, so you jerk your foot towards the arrow panel) could cause you to throw something really out of whack. Some kind of weighted vest that fit tightly to your upper torso would be a safer alternative if you're certain you want to try to train using weights. Of course, the fastest way to improve without a doubt is to play for score. I played for a long time and sucked (Bs, maybe As on 9s) before I started actually trying to AA and SDG songs. I improved much faster since then than I ever had once I started scoring stuff.
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| 3. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Synaesthesia wrote: | | If you do that, you run the risk of straining a muscle or tendon. Sudden, jerking movements (could be caused by you realizing you're about to miss a note, so you jerk your foot towards the arrow panel) could cause you to throw something really out of whack. Some kind of weighted vest that fit tightly to your upper torso would be a safer alternative if you're certain you want to try to train using weights. Of course, the fastest way to improve without a doubt is to play for score. I played for a long time and sucked (Bs, maybe As on 9s) before I started actually trying to AA and SDG songs. I improved much faster since then than I ever had once I started scoring stuff. |
Yes, that's quite true about the weights. I use them to train for sports (diving and track) and it's one of those things where you have to learn self control and know you limits. Ankle weights is defintally not one of those get better quick ideas. It's best if you have a sense of you knowing what you're doing.
One thing I wanted to add before. That once you take them off. That's the time you have to watch yourself the most. Just because your legs feel lighter and you can move them faster doesn't mean you should. It takes a couple mins for them to get back to normal.
Vests are the way to go, but they're darn expensive. |
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| 4. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Synaesthesia wrote: | | I played for a long time and sucked (Bs, maybe As on 9s) before I started actually trying to AA and SDG songs. I improved much faster since then than I ever had once I started scoring stuff. |
To go on a tangent with this for people that are wondering about how to get good at this game. This is the absolute truth. If you want to get better, you can't just play to pass songs, you play to get AAA's. Try to time your footing. Even on 10 footers that you've never passed before, try to hit every arrow dead-on and you'll get better much faster, guaranteed. Ankle weights won't help you with foot-speed, stamina or anything else nearly as much as this will. |
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| 5. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Baggage wrote: | | Even on 10 footers that you've never passed before, try to hit every arrow dead-on |
This kind of advice has always confused me. Does anyone play and NOT try to do this? If someone's not trying to hit every arrow dead-on, what exactly are they aiming for?
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| 6. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: Re: DDR + Ankle weights |
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| Joei wrote: | | Has anyone here tried playing DDR w/ ankle weigths? |
Search "ankle weights" and "weight vest" and you'll see a lot of messages on this.
I've tried both... both kill your PA; ankle weights make your ankles sore (the weight is resting on the back of your achille's tendon and tends to bounce up and down on it); the weight vest makes your shoulders really sore; and both of them kill the fun factor because it makes you struggle on songs that you normally can play with no problem. My conclusion was that the best way to improve stamina was to play difficult songs unencumbered, rather than easier songs while weighted down. |
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| 7. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Ankle weights will cause less pain than an upper body wait. Back pains anyone?
If you really wanna lost weight playing DDR, just do endless mode. That way, you'll at least be getting some cardiorespitory endurance going. But for real people, there's so many better workouts out there than DDR. Trying running? lifting? anything?
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| 8. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Slowpoke wrote: | | Baggage wrote: | | Even on 10 footers that you've never passed before, try to hit every arrow dead-on |
This kind of advice has always confused me. Does anyone play and NOT try to do this? |
Yeah - once in a while when I'm playing a hard 10, I get lazy and (almost) lose track of the beat. Of course, as soon as I realize I'm doing this, I regain my focus on getting Perfects. But sometimes, it's tempting to bend the rhythm a bit to make it easier, especially when you're tired or when you're playing a hard song you're not familiar with.
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| 9. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Slowpoke wrote: | | Baggage wrote: | | Even on 10 footers that you've never passed before, try to hit every arrow dead-on |
This kind of advice has always confused me. Does anyone play and NOT try to do this? If someone's not trying to hit every arrow dead-on, what exactly are they aiming for? |
Yeah, if I were feeling really lazy (or really tired) I would stop trying to get Perfects and just sort hit arrows irrespective of the beat, so that I would end up with mostly Greats and Goods. I'd still pass, but with a terrible score.
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| 10. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Slowpoke wrote: | | Joei wrote: | | Has anyone here tried playing DDR w/ ankle weigths? |
Search "ankle weights" and "weight vest" and you'll see a lot of messages on this.
I've tried both... both kill your PA; ankle weights make your ankles sore (the weight is resting on the back of your achille's tendon and tends to bounce up and down on it); the weight vest makes your shoulders really sore; and both of them kill the fun factor because it makes you struggle on songs that you normally can play with no problem. My conclusion was that the best way to improve stamina was to play difficult songs unencumbered, rather than easier songs while weighted down. |
I did before. All that came up was a bunch of irrelevent posts about random stuff. There may have been one or two things further back but bumping a dead post serious seems stupid expecially when no one remembers it.
One way to solve the bounch problem is 1, strap the weigths in tight. Not too tight that it'll cut off circulation but tight enough so it doesn't cause this bounching and also have it rest on your back side of your shoe.
The whole point is to use it to specifically train your legs.
idk, playing with ankle weights has been fun for me. You don't "have" to play easy songs. If you can manage hard songs then go for it. That's the point, it's suppose to provid an extra challenge.
| OMGWTFDIE wrote: | Ankle weights will cause less pain than an upper body wait. Back pains anyone?
If you really wanna lost weight playing DDR, just do endless mode. That way, you'll at least be getting some cardiorespitory endurance going. But for real people, there's so many better workouts out there than DDR. Trying running? lifting? anything? |
I donât see this as a workout idea but more of improving game play. Yes, its true, playing more songs will get you better at songs, itâs a given. The idea of adding weights or resistance while doing activities is a very common way to improve oneâs performance. Such as using a mini parachute while running and drag suits in swimming. The whole point is to break through the barrier. Instead of progressing at a normal pace, youâre impeding you progress by adding more obstacles in the way which thus makes you work harder to over come them. |
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| 11. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Joei wrote: | | I did before. All that came up was a bunch of irrelevent posts about random stuff. There may have been one or two things further back but bumping a dead post serious seems stupid expecially when no one remembers it. |
These threads seem awfully relevant and on-topic:
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109733
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=110837
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=104615
And there'd be no need to bump them, since they've got about 100 opinions in there, which is basically what you were looking for.
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You don't "have" to play easy songs. If you can manage hard songs then go for it. That's the point, it's suppose to provid an extra challenge.
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By "hard", I mean difficult stamina-wise. If someone struggles to complete a song playing normally, trying it with ankle weights is just plain stupid. It just means you'll end up bailing out that much sooner. |
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| 12. Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Slowpoke wrote: | | Baggage wrote: | | Even on 10 footers that you've never passed before, try to hit every arrow dead-on |
This kind of advice has always confused me. Does anyone play and NOT try to do this? If someone's not trying to hit every arrow dead-on, what exactly are they aiming for? |
if i'm tired and a fast stream is coming up (by fast i mean sixteenths at 150 or eighths at 300 or something), i start the stream early and end it late. sometimes it's easier to go for goods and greats when you're totally pooped. |
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| 13. Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I used to use ankle weights (before I lost them), but that was when I was transitioning to arcade play. I'd pretty much use the weights when I played at home to simulate shoes.
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| 14. Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I thought of this EXACT same thing!!! I need some ankle weights. I also wanna try with like 10lb hand weights to hold to strengthen my arms a bit. It wont do much but never know. Im like as thin as a twig so this could really help. The ankle weights though do seem an awesome idea! I think your feet would move alot faster in time which is what I hope to accomplish!
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| 15. Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| never tried it but i think i will. thanks for the idea |
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| 16. Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Trust me i play with them alot (of course i train alot) and you really have to know when to quit cause you could end up hurting yourself
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| 17. Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| i tried playing with ankle weights and i found it very hard to aim my feet and make them stop when i want them too |
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| 18. Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you're in for getting stronger, doing that works. It also really does build up your speed and stamina. I used to be unable to move my feet fast enough to get any eighth-note runs in Max 300 - now they aren't much of a problem unless I'm tired.
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