Is Utopia (Expert) synchronized?

Zeta Aspect · Last edited by Zeta Aspect on Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:32 pm, edited 1 time in total

Okay. So many people are arguing about this that I am going to find out. The point of this thread is to get someone to isolate whatever part in the music that Utopia's beats follow. Then I will have to confirm that the part aligns with the beats and exists in the actual ITG song. If someone could sound edit Utopia to find that rhythm, we can finally end this argument, or at least provide some evidence for other "studies".
THIS IS NOT AN OPINIONS THREAD!
I do not want arguments; I want evidence.
Whether or not this part is sufficiently audible and other arguments can wait.
Other comments are acceptable and appreciated, as long as they are relevant to the subject.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:

After the last orange arrow on the right foot section, the right foot seems absolutely flawlessly synched with the synths or the "Let's go". However, I have not heard (and believe me, I went to tutorial mode, put on the click and slowed it down with blaring volume) any rhyme or reason for first 5 or 6 steps for your right foot in that section. I've learned to step it pretty well, but honestly, I do it visually. I hear no synchronization for the first part at all.

But like I said, the second half is synched flawlessly.
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Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

I can't align a lot of the steps with the synths when slowing down the music or listening it to the correct speed.

But people still pretend they're there. Then again, if you "hear" the synths, chances are you'll "hear" them if the steps were placed even more awkwardly in different spots. It's psychological =\
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject:

469.JR07 Si · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:56 am Post subject:

those right arrows are on sync, but they go in and out with different sounds in the music. if you slow the song down you can find it, BUT there are TWO arrows that don't go to anything, or aren't really synced right. Hard to tell really, best bet is to memorize.

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject:

Indeed. But that doesn't mean the parts can't be found.
I should really ask Kyle for the sheet music, or something.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah, it's pretty well synched, IMHO.

I think that it is. It's just that people are arguing because it is quite subtle and quiet. It's almost ambient, sort of...
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject:

So, would someone like to find that "ambient", "subtle" part or something? You can keep saying that it is synchronized, but it will take some evidence to make a point.

UPDATE: I sent an e-mail to KaW. If he decides to respond, we may get an answer. I would be surprised if no one has tried this before, though.
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DemonHybrid · Trick Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: Matamoras, PA

Left speaker: Has an "in and out" synth beat, they mixed it to the weird akward steps.
Right speaker: More of a less crisp sounding synth. Goes with the orange hold right in the middle, and a few more arrows.

It's a mixture of both.

Then of course, the left-foot-arrows go with the bass.

Then both feet go to both the bass and BOTH synths combined.

Grab some headphones, press them to your ears and listen to it.

EDIT: My proof is the MP3 itself, I can't buy you guys headphones, you need to find this stuff yourself in order to listen to it yourself, I can't help you there.
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NW330 · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:

While I can't really see any reason for that section one question comes to mind.

If these arrows all match up with one sound or another, why is it that they chose to match arrows to sounds that don't seem as audible to the average person?

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject:

TehWhack · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

I can tell you that the gap is absolutely perfect. The weird part has nothing to do with the sync.

[+Duracell-] · Trick Member Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Location: Maumee, Ohio

That "sound" that the steps go to in that part might have been lost in MP3 compression. Does anyone have his CD to listen to?
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Okay, I got a reply from Kyle. While he doesn't like debating the stepcharts to his songs, he does say that C. Foy was very careful in planning the arrows. C. Foy used several sounds that were caused by effects - for example, multitap delay and reverb.

While this explains what is going on, it might still be nice to get an isolated or separated track.
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

The steps seem perfectly fine to me.... its just not so immediately obvious. And even if you cant necessarily hear every single sound an arrow might be going to, the steps still "make sense" with the song. I think its a pretty fun chart.
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