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0. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Seen these kids? Huge stamina, no PA Reply with quote

I keep running into this strange breed of player lately. It boggles my mind and annoys me, so I finally had to post about it.

I'm talking about these kids who are stamina-beasts, but can't PA easy stuff to save their a$$. There's this one kid I see playing often who can get an A or better on all the tens, including PSMO, but then I saw him get 31 & misses on Door of Magic, high 20's on LTTS-TC Mix, and didn't AA Do You Remember Me.

Now I'm no elite player. I still can't pass most 10's, but several tounaments I've seen lately either ban 10s or limit you to using the same song once or twice tops.

If I had to go against this kid in a tourny, and he already used up his 10s, I could take him...and I suck.

Doesn't seem smart to do nothing but play 10s all the time. About equally as smart as playing any same 5 songs repeatedly. The other day my friend played with him, and picked Last Message, and he said he had never played it before!

I guess these kids annoy me for some reason. I dunno, is it more impressive to SDG or AAA stuff or get A's on 10s all day?
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1. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my younger sister is like that... shes not quite good enough to do the ten footers, but she has no concept of FC'ing or PA'ing whatsoever. its pretty funny to watch her twitch on the pad doing paranoia maxx (dirty mix) like she was doing pandemonium... lol laugh.gif
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2. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I was like that a while ago. Now I have even more stamina, and my PA is excellent.
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3. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone has different styles of playing. Why does it bother you so much that people can't PA? Some people aim for PA, others FC... myself, for example, I have terrible PA but I can FC circles around the dance pad on pretty much all 9 footers and, erm, one ten (if you consider Bag much of a ten...)

The gist of my point is, don't knock people because they play differently than you. Everyone has different skill levels, everyone has different ways they like to play. It's a game, and as long as they're having fun, what's it effect you any?
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4. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psisar wrote:

The gist of my point is, don't knock people because they play differently than you. Everyone has different skill levels, everyone has different ways they like to play. It's a game, and as long as they're having fun, what's it effect you any?


Agreed! Maybe they just play for fun and dont really care about if people can beat them. They are having fun doing what they do so u have fun doing what you do. I'm pretty sure DDR is considered a game. And a game is A) An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime, more along the lines of what i think ddr is, or B) A competitive activity or sport in which players contend with each other according to a set of rules, more along the lines of what you consider it. It can be either one of course but I just like to play for fun and dont talk bad about other players who may be just playin to play. E7.gif
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5. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps these kids focus on 10s because of the feeling of, 'Yeah, I just pwnt the hardest song(s) in this game.'

And don't get me wrong, but there's TONS of songs that I've never played on the arcade machines, simply because they're not on the home versions. (Although, it is my goal to go to the arcade one day, set a bucket of tokens down near the machine and go through every song)
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6. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, so you can beat them in PA. What do they care? They can take you in all of the 10s and/or stamina draining 9s. Your analysis seems to be biased. Quantity wise, it's true. Being able to beat him in 95% of the songs IS a win, but.... when you take into account how many people can pass oh let's say Last Message vs. how many can pass PSMO... well there's a whole different story.

I slightly understand your POV though. I used to not like PAers very much. Unfortunately where I'm from, the PAers have more 1-song stamina than me. So whereas I've passed every song in the game except PSMO, they are here AAing PSMO. We sort of built respect towards each other. I can do an insane amount of 9s and 10s back to back, yet they can easily beat my score on any of them. I want to do better, yes, but I do it how I do it. I have this thing called ADDR (ADD + DDR) where I can't play slow songs because I just lose focus. I prefer adrenaline pumping fast songs. Perhaps they're this way too.
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7. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Seen these kids? Huge stamina, no PA Reply with quote

Those people (kinda like myself) that have huge stamina but kinda bad PA would probably be people who play on their toes.... correct me if i'm wrong, but that's the exact same thing that i've encountered while playing that way. I could play DDR all day and drain my body completly of water (which i regularly do) while doing 10 footers consistently. However, that doesn't always mean my PA is that great (well, A's and B's)...

clubbinguy wrote:
I guess these kids annoy me for some reason. I dunno, is it more impressive to SDG or AAA stuff or get A's on 10s all day?


AAAing something is amazing, SDG is great but kinda a big let down because of that ONE great.... and getting A's on 10's all day are good too. These all fall into different subcategories and are great on different levels. It just depends...
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8. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Seen these kids? Huge stamina, no PA Reply with quote

[ES] XuXa wrote:

AAAing something is amazing, SDG is great but kinda a big let down because of that ONE great.... and getting A's on 10's all day are good too. These all fall into different subcategories and are great on different levels. It just depends...

I think he means geats in the 1-9 region.
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9. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think he means geats in the 1-9 region.


Ya umm greats not geats just a typo I'm sure well I've heard people calling 1 great a green flag or a black flag if its the very last one

On topic: I used to be one of those people, big stamina but often got more greats than perfects on songs but now I have a few AAA's meaning better PA
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10. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could definitely call me one of those "kids". Stamina-wise, I can take anything, and I can play for a long consecutive string without feeling tired. But I have hardly any AAs or AAAs. Like XuXa, I also play on my toes.
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11. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im the complete Opposite...I have GReat PA skills but i have zero stamina. I have the perfect ability to do a 10 footer but just get to tierd in the middle of the song to do it.

But Give me an 7-9 footer and ill AA the poopy out of it hahah.
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12. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm completly clueless, what does SDG, PA, and FC mean or stand for?
can somebody tell me or give me a link that will tell me? thanx
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Fred 00 wrote:
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I'm completly clueless, what does SDG, PA, and FC mean or stand for?
can somebody tell me or give me a link that will tell me? thanx


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And XuXa, I play flatfooted (used to play on my toes, but I've learned) and I'm still not that great of a PAer. Heck, flatfootedness helps my stamina. I mean I've AA'd a few 9s but, still- I've seen people play on their toes with plenty of AAAs.
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14. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E-Prime wrote:
You could definitely call me one of those "kids". Stamina-wise, I can take anything, and I can play for a long consecutive string without feeling tired. But I have hardly any AAs or AAAs. Like XuXa, I also play on my toes.


Same here. I can go hours on end on catas and 10s, but I cant PA for crap. I play on my toes for the most part, also (unless Im super tired, then Ill start trying to play flat footed, but its hard to do that when every sport youve been in has told you never to be flat footed). Streams dont phase me, until Im running on fumes.

I can FC a few 7 and 8 footers, but thats nothing special.
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15. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to ramble off topic to ask a question most likely covered by a fact, but I can't resist:

What is SDG?
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Single Digit Great; getting 1 to 9 greats on a song while FCing it.

The best guy around where I live passed Pandemonium Expert a little after he first got an A on PSMO.
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17. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does playing flat-footed help you when playing ddr? cause i play on my toes.
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18. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flat-footing lets you use your quads more, which are generally stronger than your calves, and can last a lot longer stamina-wise.
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19. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea but wouldnt that screw up yourheels or not? and is it hard if you play on your toes to switch to flat-footed?
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