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Gondilyn
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0. PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Beatmania Learning Curve Reply with quote

I just got Beatmania IIDX 8th style, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips about how to position your hands on the controller. I have the Konami Beatmania IIDX controller, and I'm able to pass very few 3 star songs in begginers mode. I think I have it down, sorta, but I'm just curious if there are any "reccomended hand positions."


I'm also curious as to how long it took people to pass their first seven star song, so I know how long I have to go.

Thanks!

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1. PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just started IIDX about 2-3 weeks ago.... April 4th to be exact (you always remember shipping dates. lol)

Anyway, im already up to being able to pass 6 stars in light 7. I started with 6th style. My hand position? I think its kinda wierd to be honest, but it works really good. When resting i put my index and middle fingers of my left hand on keys 1 and 3. Right hand is the crazy part: index on 4 thumb on 5 middle on 6 ring on 7.

Incase you dont know the numbers yet, the bottom left white key is 1, top left black is 2.... etc etc.

It's a wierd hand setup in a way. When theres a 2-3 roll or something i use my middle finger on 2 and my thumb on 3. Since my right hand has a finger on every key that hands pretty easy to work with.
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2. PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there's really no one set recommended hand position, just go with what works, and as songs get harder, you'll adapt around those songs with practice. Just remember, pinkies and thumbs are really handy in alot of songs.

As for first 7... I think it was Happy Wedding or Somebody Like You, which I cleared after about.. 6 or 7 months (4 months of you consider G2 L7 a 7*).
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3. PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think The Strong Jaeger was my first 7 and it took about 4-5 months for that. My first flashing 7 was Spin The Disc but it's not a flashing 7 anymore. Matter of fact, on that note, there is not a single flashing 7 that I'm even close to beating. They are too hard for me but its still fun to try.

As stated above, just go with what works best for you. There are some weird positions like a 2 and 5 or 1 2 and 7 at the same time in a few songs that will throw you off but most of the time, those just take finding the way to recognize that pattern and getting your fingers to get in position fast enough to hit it and then return back to the next note.
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4. PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, don't think that using two hands is a bad thing. Sure it can look cool, but you're really just limiting yourself. I only do one hand for fun, or to help my dexterity. Never when Im seriously trying to beat a song.
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5. PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustJeff wrote:
I think The Strong Jaeger was my first 7 and it took about 4-5 months for that. My first flashing 7 was Spin The Disc but it's not a flashing 7 anymore. Matter of fact, on that note, there is not a single flashing 7 that I'm even close to beating. They are too hard for me but its still fun to try.


Huh? When was Spin the Disc a flashing 7? It is on 14 keys, but as far as I know, it wasn't ever higher than being a plain old 7 on 7 keys.
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6. PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been playing IIDX at least a year now off and on, and I'm starting to think I learned with the turntable on the wrong side (I'm a leftie playing with the turntable on the right side, does it matter?). I can only beat most L7 5-stars but that's about it.

I'm not slow or anything, I can beat nearly anything on DDR and Pop'n Music. I play like crap when I switch the turntable to the left side; any experts out there notice that they play significantly better on one side or the other?

It's depressing to see that everybody is passing 7-stars after only a few months, what am I doing wrong?
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7. PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtrobot wrote:
I've been playing IIDX at least a year now off and on, and I'm starting to think I learned with the turntable on the wrong side (I'm a leftie playing with the turntable on the right side, does it matter?). I can only beat most L7 5-stars but that's about it.

I'm not slow or anything, I can beat nearly anything on DDR and Pop'n Music. I play like crap when I switch the turntable to the left side; any experts out there notice that they play significantly better on one side or the other?

It's depressing to see that everybody is passing 7-stars after only a few months, what am I doing wrong?
You're not playing as much as they are... that's normal.

I'm right-handed, and I prefer having the turntable on the left. That way, I can use my right hand to hit more complex key patterns one-handed while scratching... so I'd say, if you're left-handed, you probably want the turntable on the right.

And I can't play for crap with the turntable on the right, either. Anytime I'm in the arcade playing with a friend of mine, I put it on autoscratch if I'm on the right.
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8. PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took me a full hour before I beat my first level 1 song on beginner's mode ; ;
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9. PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soda wrote:
It took me a full hour before I beat my first level 1 song on beginner's mode ; ;
It seems to me that the ratings are messed up on beginner's mode, though. There are a lot of 1s that feel like they ought to be 3s and vice-versa. :/
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10. PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started on Beginner mode, but looking back, I think Beginner mode is garbage. A lot of the songs have inaccurate ratings. I'd just start out in Light7, it's not that much harder until you get up to the 5's or 6's.
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11. PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coredesat wrote:
I started on Beginner mode, but looking back, I think Beginner mode is garbage. A lot of the songs have inaccurate ratings. I'd just start out in Light7, it's not that much harder until you get up to the 5's or 6's.
The problem with that, though, is that there are very few "very easy" songs. For example, on the arcade IIDX RED, there are only three 1s on Light7. :/

So, I'd play Beginner Mode until you can pass three or four songs, then start working on Light7.
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