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0. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: American songs are wrecking DDR! Reply with quote

Umm... Whose idea was it to put songs made by like, Cher and uh, Maddona in DDR? Unless your a housewife theese songs gotta go! They didn't put MAX period in EXTREME US annd I don't think they are making DDR anymore... Anyway mod chips are becoming illegal and buying ANOTHER japanese ps2 will only cost too much and I can't play my japan-only songs because of these stupid American songs! frust.gif (Not to be offensive I'm just saying that the American songs are stopping songs like Sakura and MAX period from making it into US DDR games.)
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1. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. You have a point. Sakura was da bomb. I saw that video with Yasu and until then I never even tried to do a 10 foot song. After the video I'm like I gott try that. So I headed down to the arcade and kicked some buttocks.
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2. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: American songs are wrecking DDR! Reply with quote

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Anyway mod chips are becoming illegal and buying ANOTHER japanese ps2 will only cost too much and I can't play my japan-only songs because of these stupid American songs!


Stop crying, you can't do anything about the software.

The green, though, you can do something about. Get a job.
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3. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your opinion.

Other people would prefer American songs because it's an American game. They can get the Japanese songs elsewhere. Don't have the money? Yeah, that sucks. But you're one person. Oh, there are more that agree with you? Well you're still a minority. So why should they cater to the minority? To not make as much money? Yeah good decision.

By the way, you have no idea whether or not they'll be making another DDR. In fact, your opinion is probably wrong.

(Hint: They're making one for GameCube)
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4. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: American songs are wrecking DDR! Reply with quote

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Umm... Whose idea was it to put songs made by like, Cher and uh, Maddona in DDR? Unless your a housewife theese songs gotta go! They didn't put MAX period in EXTREME US annd I don't think they are making DDR anymore... Anyway mod chips are becoming illegal and buying ANOTHER japanese ps2 will only cost too much and I can't play my japan-only songs because of these stupid American songs! frust.gif (Not to be offensive I'm just saying that the American songs are stopping songs like Sakura and MAX period from making it into US DDR games.)
Guess what? Those songs are on DDR Festival too! Meaning it's not the US versions of the game, it's Konami of Japan, afterall they were the ones that made US Extreme.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

people get so whiney about this. ya the american songs are not as fun for a lot of us but its not like thats all there is. there are so many songs and if you want to play them that bad, your gunna have to spend some green or import (which is not cheep either). its like once a new mix comes out, a few days later people are all oh when is the next one comming. they dont even make time to enjoy whats in front of them. not to rip on you
The Oathkeeper, but try enjoying what you have and new things will seem to come faster.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want JP Extreme songs, get the JP Extreme game. The US version has your so-hated US songs, because (hur hur) it's released in the US.

Besides, just because you hate the songlist doesn't mean other people do. I actually liked most of US EX's songlist.
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7. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The american songs they have on extreme hear are pretty funky i quote liked 4th mix for Kung Fu Fighting thats awsome. riiight.gif
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8. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luciferian wrote:
The american songs they have on extreme hear are pretty funky i quote liked 4th mix for Kung Fu Fighting thats awsome. riiight.gif


Your sentence didn't make any sense at all. And Kung Fu Fighting was a 1st Mix song.
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The american songs they have on extreme hear are pretty funky i quote liked 4th mix for Kung Fu Fighting thats awsome. riiight.gif


Your sentence didn't make any sense at all. And Kung Fu Fighting was a 1st Mix song.
It was also on 4th mix Alex E15.gif

The Extreme US songlist could have been better, I agree, but seeing there isn't a damn thing we can do about it, we might as well not whine. I actually didn't think the songs of the sort they had on there such as "Like a Virgin" or "Believe" were that bad. The steps were fun even if the songs themselves sucked. Whatever though. As others have said, many people like these songs and there are many that rebut to this. This is a very opinionated topic. Peace.
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10. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was also on 4th mix Alex E15.gif

The Extreme US songlist could have been better, I agree, but seeing there isn't a damn thing we can do about it, we might as well not whine. I actually didn't think the songs of the sort they had on there such as "Like a Virgin" or "Believe" were that bad. The steps were fun even if the songs themselves sucked. Whatever though. As others have said, many people like these songs and there are many that rebut to this. This is a very opinionated topic. Peace.


Oh, I know it was on 4th Mix as well. ^^ I wasn't disagreeing. I was just stating its origins to show that American/English songs have been on DDR since the beginning of DDR, and adding a few more isn't ruining it. If these songs were ruining DDR, would they have gotten as far as they have with the series?
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11. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem I see with American songs is that the style of the song tends to promote one of two types of stepcharts:

1) Something which follows the music, but is extremely mundane and unoriginal.

2) Something which may be challenging and original, but doesn't follow the music.

If this was an arcade mix, where people are likely to play the songs for score dozens of times, I might have a problem more with the stepchart then with the song. But it's not an arcade mix, so I don't see that problem.

If you really want to hear Sakura go to the arcade and play it on DDR Extreme. I'd be happy I'm getting a different song selection, if I played at home (which I don't).
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12. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPF5.Kiba wrote:
The only problem I see with American songs is that the style of the song tends to promote one of two types of stepcharts:

1) Something which follows the music, but is extremely mundane and unoriginal.

2) Something which may be challenging and original, but doesn't follow the music.

You're right in terms of the steps that showed up in PS2 Extreme's new licensed songs, but that had nothing to do with the songs being "American". It had to do with them choosing songs that are ill-suited to DDR.
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When MAX2 came out, US mainstream songs started to get better steps. A little bit of ecstasy was the best US mainstream song with steps on Heavy. Take Me Away and Love At First Sight come after it, but they're right up there on the quality scale.

The good part about EXTREME US was at least the effort being made. Music (Bostik Radio Edit) and Move Your Feet win, hands down. Kids in America is tolerable, and you can do only so much for a song that consists of mostly silence (Sonambulist).

I would frankly prefer to see Promises from Fusion. That was great.
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When MAX2 came out, US mainstream songs started to get better steps. A little bit of ecstasy was the best US mainstream song with steps on Heavy. Take Me Away and Love At First Sight come after it, but they're right up there on the quality scale.

The good part about EXTREME US was at least the effort being made. Music (Bostik Radio Edit) and Move Your Feet win, hands down. Kids in America is tolerable, and you can do only so much for a song that consists of mostly silence (Sonambulist).

I would frankly prefer to see Promises from Fusion. That was great.


I'm going to have to agree with you concerning Extreme US. Songs like Music and Planet Rock were awesome IMO. The effort being made is really quite nice. We'll see where this leads. Maybe the new arcade mixes will have these songs.
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Umm... Whose idea was it to put songs made by like, Cher and uh, Maddona in DDR? Unless your a housewife theese songs gotta go! They didn't put MAX period in EXTREME US annd I don't think they are making DDR anymore... Anyway mod chips are becoming illegal and buying ANOTHER japanese ps2 will only cost too much and I can't play my japan-only songs because of these stupid American songs! (Not to be offensive I'm just saying that the American songs are stopping songs like Sakura and MAX period from making it into US DDR games.)


Umm, dude, I don't like EX USA either, but ranting about it so much now isn't going to do any good. And this idea of "American" songs wrecking DDR, umm, American songs have been in DDR since the beginning with disco artists if nothing else. Kung Fu Fighting by Bus Stop with Carl Douglas, KC and The Sunshine Band, Mantronik Vs. EPMD, Technotronic, even Madonna's Holiday was in 3rd Mix.

You have to stop throwing around what seems to be nothing more than wild speculation, too. Modchips becoming illegal? Konami not making DDR anymore? Calm down. I can pull up any number of sites to buy modchips at, and with DDR being a million-selling game in America last year, I don't think DDR is going anywhere for a while.
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16. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I think it's a good idea to put in "American" songs (though I think what we mean is "American pop singles"), because that will help bring in new users, which means more versions of DDR will keep coming out.

Lets face it, DDR isn't just a dance game, it's also a music game. I imagine a lot of people (I was one for a long time) hold out on buying DDR because they don't know if they'll like listening to 75 two minute Euro house songs.

More new users means more games, and I think that's what we all want.
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I would have to agree with this statement 100%. Konami always makes US original songs so lame. I mean cmon, a "max" song with 8 foot heavy steps? Look at Extreme CS to Extreme USA. It's not even a competition. It seems like Konami is trying to change the North American frontier to make it distinct and different from the Original Japanese game, but the original game is what most of the long time players like and want to see more of. It seems only the new players want to play YMCA or whatnot.

That's my $0.02
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18. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IcyStaticBlast wrote:
I would have to agree with this statement 100%. Konami always makes US original songs so lame. I mean cmon, a "max" song with 8 foot heavy steps? Look at Extreme CS to Extreme USA. It's not even a competition. It seems like Konami is trying to change the North American frontier to make it distinct and different from the Original Japanese game, but the original game is what most of the long time players like and want to see more of. It seems only the new players want to play YMCA or whatnot.

That's my $0.02
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Guess what? Those songs are on DDR Festival too! Meaning it's not the US versions of the game, it's Konami of Japan, afterall they were the ones that made US Extreme.
Konami of America did NOT make US Extreme. Everyone says that US Extreme and Festival are the same thing. It's not true, but I suppose there's a few good reasons to believe that. IE: Maximizer, Believe, Like a Virgin, Bizarre Love Triangle, Your Rain etc. Not to mention they have the same interface.
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19. PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets hope DDR for GCN has some Japan-only songs. (not to mention retro tracks! dododododododoododododododododododo) If it doesn't, i'm movin to Japan in 5 years. (If DDR isnt theres always Beatmania.)

But then again, DDR for GCN is aimed at little kids.

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