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Does a AAA count if you do it at home
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20. PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travelsonic wrote:

Question, not to throw this off topic too much, but realistically: If you were to start somebody on DDR mixes at home, but he/she had to use a blueshark the entire time working his/her way to heavy, how hard would the transition to arcade be?


I would imagine the transition would be much easier than for someone going from a foam pad without sunken arrow panels. The #1 thing I always see someone having a problem with when they first transition to the arcade is with the recessed arrows. They're used to being able to slide and shuffle across the pad, and you just can't do it like that in the arcade.





And to comment on what I've been reading in the last dozen posts or so;

Yes, AAAs at home count. But I urge you when talking about it on forums, or to players outside your circle of friends, that you refer to them as home or console AAAs to differentiate them from arcade AAAs.

I am speaking with honesty when I say that even getting console AAAs is an impressive feat, and you should be extremely proud of that. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. However, getting a AAA in the arcade is that much more challenging than at home. Don't think you suck because you only have AAAs at home. Just think that you're on the path to your first arcade AAA, and you're constantly improving!
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21. PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Im throwing out random variables, but take the previous situation (new to expert home player on blueshark), and we add that he has read, and hacked home versions he/she owned with info from AIJ for example to bring the timing closer to the arcade version. Would that, score wise, further ease the transition to arcade from home?



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Get over yourself. What counts, and what is impressive is relative. You cant try and end a discussion on your own, obviously biased opinion just because you see it as pointless.
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22. PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travelsonic wrote:
I know Im throwing out random variables, but take the previous situation (new to expert home player on blueshark), and we add that he has read, and hacked home versions he/she owned with info from AIJ for example to bring the timing closer to the arcade version. Would that, score wise, further ease the transition to arcade from home?



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Yes, you are.


But so am I, so I'll answer your question.

Obviously, the closer you can make an experience to that of the actual arcade machine, the less difficult a transition will be. Closer timing windows, more realistic pads, having a crowd of hecklers to hoot and holler at you - All these will make playing in an arcade less difficult. But what it should be about is whether you're having a good time, not whether the good time is at home or an arcade.
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23. PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suko wrote:

Obviously, the closer you can make an experience to that of the actual arcade machine, the less difficult a transition will be. Closer timing windows, more realistic pads, having a crowd of hecklers to hoot and holler at you - All these will make playing in an arcade less difficult. But what it should be about is whether you're having a good time, not whether the good time is at home or an arcade.

Don't forget not being able to actually hear the song.
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God dam, DDR EXTREME @ Edwards theatre in the Irvine center mall, California ~_~ The machine is almost impossible to hear.


@ Suko:

Personally, Ive been playing long enough where for the most part the adaptation between Arcade and Home takes a few songs at most (unless I'm going to SN AC), I just liked frick around with the idea of making the transition easier.
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25. PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR Extreme (JP) with arcade timing patch.. Seems to do a good enough job for me. But for some reason it's easier to AA there than at the arcade. I think it's the pad difference (sensitivity and condition of the pads).
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26. PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trigger_Happy wrote:
But for some reason it's easier to AA there than at the arcade
That should've been your first clue that the alleged "timing patch" wasn't even close to getting the timing window right.
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27. PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slowpoke wrote:
Trigger_Happy wrote:
But for some reason it's easier to AA there than at the arcade
That should've been your first clue that the alleged "timing patch" wasn't even close to getting the timing window right.


The experience was entirely different when playing on the Dualshock though. I'll admit I was whoring songs I could either AA in the arcade or songs I couldn't AA for the life of me when playing on the pad. That, and I modified my foam pad after I accidentally broke the elevated down arrow's whatever material so it won't break.

But I did get a stricter timing window and it did help me get AAs in the arcade.

But even then, I played on SuperNOVA machines (non-patched).

I wouldn't jump ahead and say the "Timing patch wasn't even close".
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28. PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AC AAA is an AC AAA.

CS AAA is a CS AAA.

CS is easier, AC is harder.

They both count.

If you count CS AAAs, don't even think about saying CS AAA=AC AAA.

If you count AC AAAs, don't be an elitist asshat and shun those that count CS AAAs.


I personally prefer CS when it comes to this. Less stressful, cheaper, and still fun. I'm not gonna waste hours of my life trying to get a AAA on some easy 6 footer when I can do it at home in maybe 3 tries tops. Yeah I count AC AAAs as well but i'm not gonna lose sleep or whore some song over and over in the arcade to get a AAA. I go for the experience, not to be pissed off.
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29. PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trigger_Happy wrote:
I wouldn't jump ahead and say the "Timing patch wasn't even close".
I wasn't just basing it on your observation that it was easier getting AAs with it; I was basing it on my observation that back when I got a hold of this patched disk, EVERYONE who tried it experienced a lower great count than they did with the unpatched disk, nevermind comparing it to arcade scores.
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30. PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

count for what?
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31. PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks it's counting for bragging rights.
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If that weren't the point, they wouldn't need to ask if home AAAs count.
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33. PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone is saying that it is easier to AAA at home....but I have to disagree.

IMO,regardless of timing windows and all that, if you can AAA on a soft pad, modded or not, then I applaud you, dammit.
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The_riot_of_blood wrote:
Everyone is saying that it is easier to AAA at home....but I have to disagree.

Well you are disagreeing with a fact so that makes you a _______.
Anyway, like NIQ9 stated on the last page, he has 100 home version AAA's and none at the arcade. Obviously,There is a MASSIVE difference. The timing windows on the home version are ENORMOUS in comparison to any Arcade mix.
Not to mention that songs that are off-sync in the arcade have usually been tweaked for their respective home version releases making it even more easy to AAA.
It ain't a real AAA unless you do it in the arcade, the only thing home versions are good for is learning stepcharts for the arcade.
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Lazy Eye wrote:
The_riot_of_blood wrote:
Everyone is saying that it is easier to AAA at home....but I have to disagree.

Well you are disagreeing with a fact so that makes you a god.


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The_riot_of_blood wrote:
Everyone is saying that it is easier to AAA at home....but I have to disagree.

IMO,regardless of timing windows and all that, if you can AAA on a soft pad, modded or not, then I applaud you, dammit.


But what about metal homepads?


and I think anything counts for bragging rights if it's a new accomplishment you had to work for.
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