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0. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Ranking the upper tier songs (10-13) Reply with quote

Ok, I am going to be re-writing this first post as more people contribute

In terms of passing

Low 10: Vorsprung, Fleadh Uncut, Tribal Style, D-Code, Kagami, Cryosleep, Queen of Light, Twilight, Hispanic Panic, Do U Love Me, My Favorite Game, Spin Chicken, Wanna Do
Mid 10: Bend Your Mind, Temple of Boom, Sweet World, Anubis, Hybrid, Out of the Dark, Remember December, Agent Blatant, Hillbilly Hardcore, Bouff, Holy Guacamole, One False Move, Hand of Time, Walking on Fire, Oasis
High 10: Disconnected Hyper, Sunshine, Visible Noise, Soapy Bubble, Tension, Know Your Enemy

Low 11: Robotix, Charlene, Xuxa, Utopia
Mid 11: Infection, The Beginning, Mythology, Destiny, July
High 11: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Clockwork Genesis

Low 12: !, Vertex, Go 60 Go, Delerium, Tell
Mid 12: Hardcore of the North, Energizer
High 12: Bloodrush, Determinator

Low 13: Summer
Mid 13: Pandemonium
High 13: Vertex^2

In terms of scoring (somebody needs to write this)[/u]


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1. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this looks like a good way to kill time *cracks knuckles*

(in terms of passing, not scoring)

Low 10: Vorsprung, Fleadh, Tribal Style, D-Code, Kagami, Cryosleep, Queen of Light, Twilight, Hispanic Panic, Do U Love Me, My Favorite Game, Spin Chicken, Wanna Do
Mid 10: Bend Your Mind, Temple of Boom, Sweet World, Anubis, Hybrid, Out of the Dark, Remember December, Agent Blatant, Hillbilly Hardcore, Bouff, Holy Guacamole, One False Move, Hand of Time, Walking on Fire, Oasis
High 10: Disconnected Hyper, Sunshine, Visible Noise, Soapy Bubble, Tension

Low 11: Robotix, Charlene, Xuxa, Utopia
Mid 11: Infection, The Beginning, Mythology, Destiny, July
High 11: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Clockwork Genesis

Low 12: !, Vertex, Go 60 Go, Delerium
Mid 12: Hardcore of the North, Tell, Energizer
High 12: Bloodrush, Determinator

Low 13: Summer
Mid 13: Pandemonium
High 13: Vertex^2
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2. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pandemonium is harder than vertrex two squared ^2
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3. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wakassjak wrote:
Low 11: Robotix, Charlene, Xuxa, Utopia
Mid 11: Infection, The Beginning, Mythology, Destiny, July
High 11: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Clockwork Genesis


The Beginning and Clockwork should be flip flopped.

Also, Know Your Enemy is a high 10.
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Tell should be downgraded to an easy 12 to PASS...it's a nightmare to score on with those Tell jumps.
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5. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.
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6. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJTyrant wrote:
Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.


Put them on the same level.
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7. PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotACoolName wrote:
wakassjak wrote:
Low 11: Robotix, Charlene, Xuxa, Utopia
Mid 11: Infection, The Beginning, Mythology, Destiny, July
High 11: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Clockwork Genesis


The Beginning and Clockwork should be flip flopped.

Also, Know Your Enemy is a high 10.

I'd agree with Know Your Enemy, I kinda forgot what the chart was like and randomly stuck in the middle.

But Clockwork has always seemed to be stupidly hard to me (if there are crossovers I can't read most of them).
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DJTyrant wrote:
Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.


Passing, not scoring. Clockwork is no harder than Utopia; it was one of my first passes. The Beginning is crossover hell, and it's essentially Mythology without the whole 9 footer section of which almost the entire Mythology stepchart consists.
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9. PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't say anything about passing or scoring, where did you get that I mentioned either of those in my post?
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AJAX. wrote:
DJTyrant wrote:
Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.


Put them on the same level.


The only trick for The Beginning is the crossovers. -_-
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Da-RiSiN-sMoKe wrote:
AJAX. wrote:
DJTyrant wrote:
Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.


Put them on the same level.


The only trick for The Beginning is the crossovers. -_-


Not necessarily. I have trouble with The Beginning because my stamina sucks. The crossovers are never the problem for me.

Clockwork isn't really that bad stamina-wise, but the steps are (like he said) all over the place.
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12. PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated the first post for the general consensus.
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13. PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJTyrant wrote:
I didn't say anything about passing or scoring, where did you get that I mentioned either of those in my post?


You didn't, but wakassjak did. Since he made the list it seems to be a relevant point.

EDIT: I'm not really familiar with either song, I'll play them at the lock in tonight and see how it goes.
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14. PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If somebody wants to write a list for scoring too, that would be nice.

I would contribute some more, but I'm only at the low 11 level =x
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Da-RiSiN-sMoKe wrote:
AJAX. wrote:
DJTyrant wrote:
Clockwork is way harder imo than The Beginning. The Beginning is fairly straightforward while Clockwork is all over the place I think.


Put them on the same level.


The only trick for The Beginning is the crossovers. -_-


The only trick for Clockwork Genesis is nonexistant.
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16. PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of changing the argument here but shouldn't Delirium be put down to a mid 12 instead of an easy 12?

Where is Euphoria?

And on the argument of the Beginning and Clockwork, Its kind of a personal preference thing. If you struggle with crossovers then the Beginning willl probably destroy you, for me it was one of my last 11's. As far is Clockwork goes... well its just wierd so put them on the same lvl, probably medium.
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darksteel53 wrote:
Where is Euphoria?
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Personally I'd shove Euphoria in a middle-high sort of area. I'd put it in mid-level. I personally jsut find it somewhat easy (harder than most of the 12's, though) to pass, but ridiculously hard to FA... But I know a lot of people have problems passing it.
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19. PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad players can't accurately rank how difficult songs are due to weaknesses in their own playstyle (leading to inflated evaluations of difficulty).

Also, Kiba did this already in his sITG essay, and in a much more accurate and scientific fashion than you guys are doing it.

Post the link in here, Cory.
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