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ChilliumBromide
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180. PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: CF & XBOX Reply with quote

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ozyman wrote:
Where do you guys see that CF come with an xbox adapter? I can't find anything on the CF website about it. Also their forums seem to be down, and I emailed them asking what they recommended for xbox & pc about a week ago, and never heard anything. Personally, I'd be pretty reluctant at this point to send any money their way.


I was also looking for XBOX 360 control box on CF. I could not find it.

I know that mymybox will soon have xbox 360 control box for nexen and blueshark.
Fixed. Last I checked, like, a week ago, it was still a project of theirs, along with the microswitch sensors and Nexen w/ bar.
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181. PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided i want a new dance pad. I've been researching a lot and many people said Cobalt Flux and Blueshark are the best ones. Which one is really better? I want the one that will almost last forever and will work perfectly and not a hassle to fix or mod it (if you know what I mean). I also want it to be affordable. So what do you guys think?
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If you want it to be affordable, pick up a Cobalt Flux on the Marketplace forum here on DDRFreak.

However, you probably won't be able to do much in the way of mods unless you're pretty handy.
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183. PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you want it to be affordable, pick up a Cobalt Flux on the Marketplace forum here on DDRFreak.

However, you probably won't be able to do much in the way of mods unless you're pretty handy.


Lol nah im not handy. i think im going to get a blueshark instead. it;s only 50 dollars more. i also heard it's one of the best home pad.
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184. PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not on the site, yet. They haven't updated the site in a long time.

They also changed forums, as I've told people 540565025654366 times.
http://cobaltflux.20.forumer.com/

I also wouldn't expect them to answer an email that basically asks them "Do you think I should buy your pad or a Blue Shark?"


Great, so you've told people on some unofficial DDR forum somewhere that the CF forum is changed. Don't you think maybe cobaltflux ought to change the link that is on every page of their website so that it actually points to the correct forum?

Plus my email didn't say anything like that (and even if it did, I expect they should write back and say: "buy our pad! It's better than the blue shark, and here are several reasons..."

What my email did say was, that I wanted to buy one of their pads, but wasn't sure how well it would work with xbox/pc and wan't to know what their preferred solution was to getting it to work with xbox/pc. That's not what I would consider an unreasonable request - especially if their pads now come with a xbox controller as some people have been claiming. Of course maybe the best solution is to just buy a different pad, in which case I can see why they decided they'd rather just ignore me.

Sorry, but the broken forum link and not responding to email is just sloppy and unprofessional. I really wanted to get a cobult flux, but there is no way I'd trust them now.
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185. PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ozyman wrote:
Agent 24 wrote:
It's not on the site, yet. They haven't updated the site in a long time.
They also changed forums, as I've told people 540565025654366 times.
http://cobaltflux.20.forumer.com/
I also wouldn't expect them to answer an email that basically asks them "Do you think I should buy your pad or a Blue Shark?"

#1) Great, so you've told people on some unofficial DDR forum somewhere that the CF forum is changed. #2) Don't you think maybe cobaltflux ought to change the link that is on every page of their website so that it actually points to the correct forum?
Sorry, but the broken forum link and (not responding to email) (#3) is just sloppy and unprofessional. I really wanted to get a cobult flux, but there is no way I'd trust them now.


Don't apologize to him. He's not a CF rep. Some things I want to point out (and excuse me 24 for stepping in between you two here);

#1) Agent 24 may not have mentioned the new website to a lot of people on this forum (and I probably should have posted the link somewhere significant, like in a first-post of a sticky or in an announcement or something along with other very relevant facts for pads in this forum), but this is not "some unofficial DDR forum somewhere." This is THE major DDR forum.

#2) No one is saying they shouldn't. The fact is that the core of CF and the website end is very much disconnected (and the website end is doing a crap job), and the website and forum end are also crap-tastic. Not to say that this isn't totally irresponsible on all ends; I think at some point CF became less of handicraft and more of auto-manufacture and became a whole ton more impersonal (which got them severe minus-points). They could very well wipe the old forums (you know, the old "Delete /forum/ directory") and add countermeasures to automated spambots, but some jackass (and/or several jackasses) isn't moving on that one.

#3) Sounds like another certain metal pad manufacturer I know...

I'm not defending CF any more than they deserve (which isn't much), but I do want to set the record straight.
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186. PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - I guess it's possible that the manufacture and delivery of pads is still being done competently, and it's just their web presence that is a mess, but man they need to get their act together. I guess they must get so much business based upon their reputation that they don't feel the need to put any effort into customer relations, but that seems like a really stupid way to run a business to me.

In any case, I didn't mean to denigrate ddrfreak.com. I'm not a hardcore DDRer so I don't really know where the primary gathering places are. I definitely appreciate the help of everyone on this forum. I think what I'm going to do is get that TX-4000. I let you guys know how it goes.
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187. PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ozyman wrote:
Thanks - I guess it's possible that the manufacture and delivery of pads is still being done competently, and it's just their web presence that is a mess, but man they need to get their act together. I guess they must get so much business based upon their reputation that they don't feel the need to put any effort into customer relations, but that seems like a really stupid way to run a business to me.

In any case, I didn't mean to denigrate ddrfreak.com. I'm not a hardcore DDRer so I don't really know where the primary gathering places are. I definitely appreciate the help of everyone on this forum. I think what I'm going to do is get that TX-4000. I let you guys know how it goes.


Agreed in full

And understood. My apologies if I might have come off too strong.
And most definitely post with your results/satisfaction/dissatisfaction with the TX.
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188. PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not too new to DDR, but my red octane soft pad has fallen apart and i'm going to invest into a metal pad. Here were the two I was looking at

http://www.ddruniverse.com/1ps2xbusbpcm.html

I couldn't find any reviews on this pad. Does anyone own one of these or know if they are good or not?

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/afterburner/

I saw a couple of reivew on this sticky about the afterburner and they seem to be pretty reliable and durable. But, i've also been hearing a lot of hype about this blue shark pad. I really don't want to end up with a dud and have my money lost from bad customer service though.

My budget is around 400 dollars, I don't need a bar so what's the best I can get for around this price?
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189. PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No and no. Get a 3" BlueShark w/out bar.

EDIT:

Other options:
tx-4000/tx-6000
Cobalt Flux
Homebrew (easier than you'd think and best for budget)
Modded softpad
Commissioned homebrew (pay someone to build you a custom pad; I'd normally recommend myself, but I'm not taking orders until I get my prototypes built.)
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190. PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoymilkCharlie wrote:
No and no. Get a 3" BlueShark w/out bar.

EDIT:

Other options:
tx-4000/tx-6000
Cobalt Flux
Homebrew (easier than you'd think and best for budget)
Modded softpad
Commissioned homebrew (pay someone to build you a custom pad; I'd normally recommend myself, but I'm not taking orders until I get my prototypes built.)


This, I actually considered for a while, but the guy/girl (I dunno) who I wanted to do it said s/he wasn't making pads anymore. frown.gif

When are you getting those prototypes built, Charlie? E13.gif
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Well, it'll probably be August before I can even start on them again, but the good news is, the part that's not letting me do anything until august is also getting me enough funds to finish both prototypes and begin taking orders immediately afterwards.

For a modest estimate, I'd say yesterday.
'cause I ALWAYS overshoot my estimates. E10.gif
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Well...Blueshark FTW in my opinion, though if you have the patience, go with the one without a bar and build it yourself, because, frankly, the bar that comes with the Blueshark is kinda flimsy. It's not gonna break or anything, but it moves.

Though I'm starting to hear horror stories about Bluesharks being ordered recently...
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If you have money to burn, and don't want to go all-out, one of these should be suitable. However, it should be noted that these are shorter than the bars on DDR/PIU/ITG pads, so they probably would not be suitable for those over 5'8" or so.
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194. PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how reliable is BlueShark though? I keep hearing things about "it's a 50/50 chance you'll get a good pad" and that their customer service is horrible? I don't want to throw away my money...
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
If you have money to burn, and don't want to go all-out, one of these should be suitable. However, it should be noted that these are shorter than the bars on DDR/PIU/ITG pads, so they probably would not be suitable for those over 5'8" or so.


Hahah... 5'10" and proud of it. :P (Though I wish I was taller...)

I do want a bar, but I'm not sure how to go about making my own. Are there tutorials for just the bar?
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Well, if you want a solid steel bar, you'll need some pretty intense machinery, but it's possible to get a solid 1.5" diametre, 10' long steel bar and bend it into the shape you want, then weld that onto your pad.

A more practical approach would be to get some good, solid, steel pipes including 2 90° curved pipes, then attach those to each other, either by welding if you can, or using appropriate plumbing attachments if not. Then, attach two 12" prongs to the back fin of your pad which will fit into your pad, either weld or bolt them to your pad, and slip your bar on. If you want to add some stability to it, you can bore some holes in the bar, then do the same for the prongs, stick some bolts through them, and use some nuts to fasten them nice and tight.
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
If you have money to burn, and don't want to go all-out, one of these should be suitable. However, it should be noted that these are shorter than the bars on DDR/PIU/ITG pads, so they probably would not be suitable for those over 5'8" or so.

Two of them could be cut and welded to provide a suitable bar for a 6'2" person such as myself.
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Yes, but then you're getting into the $200 area for just a bar. That's quite a bit after spending $350 on a pad.
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But how reliable is BlueShark though? I keep hearing things about "it's a 50/50 chance you'll get a good pad" and that their customer service is horrible? I don't want to throw away my money...


They are very reliable in my opinion. It's MUCH better than fifty fifty that you will get a good pad. Although you might get a bad control box, which in this case, you just get a new one which is cheap and easy. And the customer service WAS horrible, but it's gotten much better. They even called me after I got mine to see how it was doing and if I was happy with everything.
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