Something I've noticed about Japanese titles

Zonic

Have you noticed how we translate some of the songs (like Mahou no Tobira [Magic Door], or Aoi Shoudou [Blue Impulse]), but we transliterate (written in english as how to say it in japanese) other songs (like Sakura, Daikenkai, or Mikeneko Rock)? Just something I noticed. What's with that? I mean, wouldn't be easier to have "7 Cheers For This Child" than "Konoko no nanatsu no oiwaini"? It's kool that I can learn japanese this way, but what's the point?

GackTMN · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject:

Some songs have cooler japanese names than english. Especially Konoko.

Same goes for songs like Gekkou Chou.
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Ichigofan · Trick Member Joined: 22 Apr 2007

Well, I kinda like it that way. I guess I can see why it might get annoying, but it's kinda nice how you get to learn the real song name instead of a translated version.

Zukin-Man · Trick Member Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Location: War Agony

Actually, they translated Mikeneko Rock to Calico Cat Rock on Ultramix 4.
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GackTMN · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject:

SuperNOVA AC got the Calicocat Rock thing first..
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Zonic · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject:

Yeah, transliterations make it easier to find it's origin in a Bemani game. & some songs DO sound cooler in Japanese. What's cooler, Daikenkai or Big Opinion?

I forgot about Gekkou Chou (Moonlight Butterfly). What about Dandando(u(?))? & I remember something kagerow not meaning dragonfly or something.

MadVash2005 · Trick Member Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: Cresson, PA

Sometimes the different naming conventions probably have something to do with space constraints in the songwheel. For example, the translitteration of the Japanese title for "Tino's White Horse" (which in itself isn't the actual translation) would be too long for all the English characters to fit inside the box.
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Arctic Wolves · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Canada

If they can smash Konoko no nanatsu no oiwaini on the songwheel, they could smash Ikareru Ooki na Shiroi Uma on there as well. Hell, it's shorter, even.

I think some things aren't translated because it doesn't really make sense, it's difficult to strictly convey the title in English; DanDanDO would literally be something like MaleMaleROAD, which is why it got the new English subtitle "The True MAN's Road."
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GackTMN · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject:

I think an important part with SuperNOVA AC is they didn't want to have to use japanese characters at all for the songwheel, so they had all the names either americanized or the japanese names made englishized, like Konoko, Gekkou, Kagerow, Sakura, Daikenkei, etc..

But the older ones like Aoi Shoudou and Mikenko Rock got different names probably because the english names sounded a bit better. I prefer Blue Impulse simply because it sounds a lot more..Naoki'ish?

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Zonic · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:32 am Post subject:

meismorn · Basic Member Joined: 09 Apr 2007

i think it just sounds better sometimes in jap and sometimes better in eng...

like sakura... "i passed sakura!!" sounds better then "i passed erm.. cherry blossom!!" weird...

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Haoie · Trick Member Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: New Zealand

They probably just translate it to whatever sounds 'cooler', simple as that.
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gerinis · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Location: New Jerseh

It seems like the Japanese transliterations were used in earlier mixes, but the English translations of the song titles were used in the new mixes. So, The older songs are still Japanese and the new songs, and some of the older songs, for whatever reasons, are translated into English. Make sense?
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Zonic · Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:41 am Post subject:

We should make a list of songs that got translated/transliterated.

Translated:
Mikeneko Rock (Calico Cat Rock)
Mahou no Tobira (Door Of Magic or Magic Door, either one will do)
Aoi Shoudou (Blue Impulse)
Okoreru ooki na shiroi uma (The Irritable Great White Horse, but shortened to "Tino's White Horse". BTW, Tino is the person who's on the song on Pop'n Music (from Pop'n 11))
Love Love Sugar (don't know how you say it in Japanese)

Transliterated:
Daikenkai (Big Opinion)
Sakura (Cherry Blossom)
Konoko no nanatsu no oiwaini (7 Cheers For This Child)
Gekkou Chou (Moonlight Butterfly)
Dandando(u?) (Male Male Road)
Chikara (Power/Strength)
Kagerow (shouldn't be a "u"?)
Nijiiro (Color Of Rainbow)
Kakumei (Revolution)
Ki-se-ki (Miracle)
Himawari (Sunflower)