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580. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Finally got through the phone to get live customer support today, and boy what a difference does it make.

The person that I talk to speaks perfect English (a point that needs to be made because my e-mail was covered in Engrish), is very efficient, and pretty much gets all of my problems resolved in 15 minutes.

- As soon as I mention metal pad he relates the control box problem.
- Then he immediately finds out that they shipped to the wrong address.
- Then he immediately gives me a list of contents for the incoming package and a confirmation number.

Lesson to be learned: What you feel about MyMyBox's customer service completely depends on the person you talk to. I should have made the call a long time ago instead of sending e-mails that gets ignored completely.


What number did you call? I've tried for months and I never got through.


(661)257-6090, the number that Conkerkrusher called. It took me two tries to get to it so I don't think it's too busy...

Definitely worth your time to try though. The guy on the other side of the line is courteous and right to the point, exactly what I wanted from customer service.
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581. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamus_se wrote:
alright folks, here's the answer to the top right / top left sensor question:

It uses the old solomode copper plate to metal sheet design padded with a foam. no arcade sensors here. What's worst, the sensor section has a wooden frame glued around it so I Imagine it'd be pretty hard to mod it to feel like arcade arrows.

For all of my purpose and intent that is fine, because I don't play solo and I don't want the corner arrows to be oversensitive. There might be some substantial modding that you need to do to get arcade quality work on the solo arrows though.

I'm removing all the plastic covering on the pads now. I hope to god that when the control box comes this thing isn't DOA.

EDIT: Look, my new BlueShark pad!


The desperate things that I while I wait for my control box... but the good news is, huzzah! The control box is finally here! And I'm never happier.

My impressions:

+ Response delay dropped from -40ms (my ghetto home pad setup) to -25 ms, the best I've ever seen! <3
+ No slipperage whatsoever even on top of half an inch of carpet.
+ 90 something% on Bend Your Mind difficult, better than what I did in the arcade
- I'm having trouble adjusting the screws right now. If I screw too deep the pad starts jamming, but if I screw too light the screw starts coming loose on those heavy spin songs. I'd be in the middle of a song and hear the "clank, clank" sound of a screw coming loose and I'd have to stop in the middle of a song.
- I'm also building a lot of static playing on the pad with my shoes on. Obviously I'm not blaming the pad on this one, but I'd appreciate any method that'd keep me grounded while I'm playing. Silly solution is fine as long as it doesn't interfere with gameplay. There has to be *some* perks for playing at home!
- So heavy! My plan to move the pad under the bed when I'm not playing with it totally backfired. I need those furniture sliders to help me move this thing in and out of the bed.
- I finally get to try DM Ashura's Go! Heavy on a pad today. about 2/3 down the song I'd suddenly miss every step and fail... that cold feeling of those "pad miss streaks" sinks in. I was worried that my pad is defective afterall...
+ Until I keep trying and failing at the exact same spot, then I turn the arrow speed back down and realized I misread the patterns completely. I'm the one that's screwing up and not the pad for a change!
- The bar sucks. I know that it does when I bought the pad, but it bears mentioning that it's a hunk of useless steel.
+ Oh well, at least the screws come with a free screwdriver! Woo hoo!
+ On the bright side, I'm now trying out songs that I used to bar rape on and found out that I can almost pass those songs without a bar - Sweet World Expert being the most recent example.

In summary:
+ Great pad,
- but I wish I don't have to go through that much trouble to get it (especially after I pay my fair share)!



The bars not THAT bad, it just needs to be moded to be stiffer and more stable. I havnt figured out how to adjust the panels yet, i think i need to get lock washers or something like that.
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this may be a stupid question, but

can you get these pads at ANY stores?
or do you have to order them
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jamus_se wrote:
- I'm having trouble adjusting the screws right now. If I screw too deep the pad starts jamming, but if I screw too light the screw starts coming loose on those heavy spin songs. I'd be in the middle of a song and hear the "clank, clank" sound of a screw coming loose and I'd have to stop in the middle of a song.
I wonder if there would be a way to add some kind of washer or other hardware to fix the screw in place. Anyone who knows more about these kind of things?
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584. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

13en wrote:
this may be a stupid question, but

can you get these pads at ANY stores?
or do you have to order them


You can check ebay, last time i checked they had 2 bluesharks... IMO getting them off ebay is way more safer than getting them from MMB.

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rush12 wrote:
13en wrote:
this may be a stupid question, but

can you get these pads at ANY stores?
or do you have to order them


You can check ebay, last time i checked they had 2 bluesharks... IMO getting them off ebay is way more safer than getting them from MMB.

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More rants/updates:

I was trying out DoLL on Oni today and like yesterday, I'd pick up a stream of misses that ultimately fails the song for me. Unlike yesterday, the location where this occurs is pretty random - and I'm pretty sure I didn't misread the steps this time because I wasn't try to pass the song, I was trying to AA it.

It's really hard to tell if they are really pad misses or not. The life bar would go *plunk* all of a sudden and I think the arrows didn't respond to me for a few seconds after that. However, I moved the pad a bit farther back than yesterday and when I check my sync with ITG2's audio sync utility I'm getting a -60ms delay instead of the -25ms I had yesterday. Also, this didn't happen on any song other than DoLL - I tried Tears, it was a bit slower, but I did just fine on the song without anything that feels like pad misses. The step chart should have been fine as well - I used to do it on my keyboard all the time and I've never missed enough to fail, if at all.

One thing that I know for certain is that static build up is getting really bad. If I try to put one hand on the pads and the other hand on the metal parts after a song, I'd get a static shock. All these shocks can't be good for the equipment, even if there's no direct connection between the parts that I touch and the wiring. Writing this kind of reminds me of one thing though - I should probably try using the bar tomorrow, if only to ground myself while playing...

EDIT: oh, almost forgot - I tested the bar and it was tolerable even without screws, but I store the pad under my bed when it's not in use so there's no way I'd screw the thing in.

Also... http://www.paypalsucks.com/ ... I fell victim to a phishing e-mail a long time ago and paypal did nothing to try to restore my account... they won't even close it for some reason. I was pissed. I've never used paypal since then but it's getting kind of annoying that everyone *else* is.
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587. PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey i finnally made a video of my custom bars i made for my blueshark pads enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MroW4tLKKw8
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FTV wrote:
jamus_se wrote:
- I'm having trouble adjusting the screws right now. If I screw too deep the pad starts jamming, but if I screw too light the screw starts coming loose on those heavy spin songs. I'd be in the middle of a song and hear the "clank, clank" sound of a screw coming loose and I'd have to stop in the middle of a song.
I wonder if there would be a way to add some kind of washer or other hardware to fix the screw in place. Anyone who knows more about these kind of things?


go to homedepot buy washers your gonna need like 12 for each arrow

now take off a panel u will notice those clear triangle brackets

unscrew it insert 3 washers rescrew and repeat process to the whole pad

now when u screw it back in u will notice it will now tighten but not hit the panel

congrats u now have riden your pad of clanks
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I installed the washers today, and while I was opening up the panels I found out that one of the triangle brackets broke up into two chunks. The surface that the triangle is on is uneven, and there's even a nail sticking out that they just pounded the bracket into.

After the washers are installed, the corners no longer makes the clanking sound, although there's still some squeaky sounds made by the panels. WD40 around the corners didn't help... I'll have to live with it for now.

I was running my warm-ups when I notice that half of the down arrow went "dead". I opened it up and notice that one of the two pieces of plastic that's propping up the sensor fell off, so I taped it back onto the sensors.

Today I confirmed that the pad misses are indeed very real, and it's not because I suck. What's worst, it pretty much gets triggered every time I land on a heavy stream of arrows (GO! and DoLL Oni is enough to pull it off every attempt). While being able to AA any 8 footer of my choice is quaint, I originally set out to get this pad to

1) be able to play 10 footers and beyond and not have to worry about pad misses
2) replace having to go to the arcade every time I want to play DDR

and currently the BlueShark is doing neither; on top of that I have to deal with a heavy dose of maintenance (about 30 minutes) every time I want to play with it.

All this on day THREE.

Is there anyone who had dealt with the pad misses issue and come out on top? I have a fleeting suspicion that it has something to do with the amount of static I'm building while I'm playing, but I have no concrete evidence that this is the direct cause...

P*S* I tried using the bar to ground myself, but since I can't screw the bar in it's turning out to be much more of a hindrance than I thought. It's a no-go on the static issue.

Would a humidifier in the room help?
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whats the floor paneling in your room? are u using shoes or socks? is there the thick foam padding under the pad? sorry if u stated it ealier i dont feel like checking in past topics
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The BlueShark pad is being played on top of about 1/2 inch of carpet. For the most part, I left the foam at the bottom of the pad alone (the thing is heavy, if there's no reason to flip it over I wouldn't). I don't experience static problem if I play barefoot or with socks, but I prefer shoes so any serious attempts of any song is done with shoes on. The shoes are plastic, of course.

After each song there's noticeable static on each of the arrows, and can be discharged by placing one hand on an arrow and another on any of the metal surfaces.

On that note, using the bar would keep me grounded since I stripped the top coverings, but since I can't screw the bars in it's really hurting my play experience rather than help.

I'll look it up later tonight, but is there such a thing as "static free running shoes"?
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wait the shoes u use is all plastic? weird...well that may be the problem

try buying some normal shoes like i dunno nikes or vans or whatever u would use in the arcade and just use those

dont be afraid to mess up the pad from using normal shoes with rubber bottoms there gonna get messed up eventually

that would fix the static problem
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Moccasins.
I'm actually serious there. Get some leather, and make some nice, comfy shoes out of it.

Because the panels on the BlueSharks are made out of some weird stuff (not sure what it is, but I'm pretty sure it's not lexan or plexiglas from what I've seen.), they probably generate static energy from friction when you hit them. You could slick down the panels with some powder (a light powdering of baking soda, USING A BRUSH, should make 'em slick enough that your feet will slide on them, but won't fly out from under you. That should at least decrease the static.

If that doesn't work, you can just wipe it off with a cloth and congratulate yourself for trying.
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Moccasins.
I'm actually serious there. Get some leather, and make some nice, comfy shoes out of it.

Because the panels on the BlueSharks are made out of some weird stuff (not sure what it is, but I'm pretty sure it's not lexan or plexiglas from what I've seen.), they probably generate static energy from friction when you hit them. You could slick down the panels with some powder (a light powdering of baking soda, USING A BRUSH, should make 'em slick enough that your feet will slide on them, but won't fly out from under you. That should at least decrease the static.

If that doesn't work, you can just wipe it off with a cloth and congratulate yourself for trying.


That sounds just crazy enough to work! Thanks!

... sorry to hear about all the wierd stuff that is making you into a depressed tofu. Time will sort everything out, hopefully~
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No worries.

I'll be Dancing with joy again soon.

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Uhhm, has anyone had any problems with the back of the pad starting to bend?
Recently I noticed the back end (where the bar is attached) now bends back and forth, depending on where the bar is. I tried tightening the bar (which helps), but the damn thing shouldn't bend AT ALL. I tried tightening the screws, but some just won't get fully tight. It makes me nervous to play at all now, in case I make it worse.

I've had the pad for almost five months with pretty heavy bar use, so let that be a warning to you all :o. I'm 5'10 at 155 pounds, so I'm not a fatty or anything! I don't know!

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I have a fleeting suspicion that it has something to do with the amount of static I'm building while I'm playing, but I have no concrete evidence that this is the direct cause...


Knock on wood, but I get the static electricity and my sensors are perfect - I just got my first 98% the other day after abusing the pad for five months. I don't know WHY they generate static, but they don't seem to affect the pad's sensitivity at all.
However, I have had a strange problem playing mDawg's ITGPC - I can't use it since it will randomly crash if I play songs like Anubis Expert. I was thinking the static electricity was an issue there, too, but I have no idea. Now I just play ITG and ITG 2 Beta for PS2 and it's fine.
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uh is it always crashing at the same time and same song? if so it could be other issues cause static just doesnt crash one program
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I got my blueshark, and it seems to work fine...

Until I press any two pad buttons at once. It whacks out, and then it presses all the pad buttons at once. Is this a pad problem, or is it just because I'm playing stepmania and using a super dual box pro? (adapter problem?)
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SN3S wrote:
I got my blueshark, and it seems to work fine...

Until I press any two pad buttons at once. It whacks out, and then it presses all the pad buttons at once. Is this a pad problem, or is it just because I'm playing stepmania and using a super dual box pro? (adapter problem?)


try it on a ps2 if it works fine then its the adaptor

but im gonna say its the adaptor
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