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20. PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want non-generic charts that follow the music?

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21. PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but the Afronova crossover is no more delicious (lol can't think of a better word) than Xepher Oni and it's harder to be flavorful when songs have more Chaos. Stepcharts that actually follow the music are better because people get a better idea of the rhythm.
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22. PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the stepcharts that existed prior to SuperNOVA still followed the music... They just were more fun. Take a look at a MAX 2 song like Waka Laka or an EXTREME(?) song like Jet World, and then take a look at a SuperNOVA song like Himawari or Chikara. The SuperNOVA songs seem really boring and generic by comparison, don't they? Stepcharts like the ones in those two songs seem much less memorable and fun, since they pretty much don't do anything except follow music; the steps don't really have anything unique going for them. This, in my experience, is the case with numerous SuperNOVA stepcharts; there is a much lesser amount of good, quality stepcharts than in previous mixes.
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23. PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are getting off topiiiiiiiic

Btw, when put on solo:
1/4 Notes - Orange
1/8 Notes - Blue
Everything else - Purple
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24. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not entirely. See for example:

-AA
-Baby's Tears
-CHAOS
-Fascination ~eternal love mix~
-Flow -true style-
-HAPPY*ANGEL
-HONEY^PUNCH
-INNOCENCE OF SILENCE
-LONG TRAIN RUNNIN'
-RED ZONE
-Tino's White Horse
-Xepher

And it's easy to overlook, but EXTREME was full of sleepers, too. I mean, how many times has "We Are The Champions" been played in the last 3 years? Maybe 20x, worldwide. They all have hitters and missers, plain and simple.

Ironically, in that last post: the first 1/32 or 1/24 after a beat is red/orange as well, and the first one after a half-beat (as in a "2/3 beat" arrow) appears blue, too.

Don't believe me? Play bag. Play TSUGARU. Play anything with 4 consecutive 1/3's-beats. On SOLO/RAINBOW.
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25. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation of reading ablities Reply with quote

Squinn wrote:
Hi everyone I am regular DDR player who is looking for a bit of knowledge to educate myself as well as others in our comunity here at DDR Freak. I am particulary wanted to talk about the Notes in Dance Dance Revolution.

1/4 - My knowledge of this isn't that great but I do understand this arrow is 1/4 of the beat. So where do we see these ? Are they just normal arrows without the werid colors added to them ? What songs do they appear in ?


1/8 - I think these are basicly arrows you have to step on rigt before you step on a pevious arrow. I think of it as a lesser form of 'galloping'. Not sure but don't these appear more frequently in the standard and above difficulty ? Also what songs are they in ?

1/16 - I don't know much about these arrows except that there possiblely gallops. I know gallops are in True and Rythum and Police so could these be 1/16 ?

1/24 - What do these look like ? Do they exist ? What songs can you view them in ?

1/32 - same as above I don't know if these are existent

1/64 - err . . . .

I am sure everyone here is familar with the partern where you have to hit three arrows in a tapping fashion, I am not sure what those are either.

Also B.P.M (beats per mintue) plays a role of signifcance in this discussion so if you post try to reference the B.P.M of a song you use as an example.

Thanks to everyone who responds in advance.


If you understand music (ie: you take band, chorus, etc.) it is easier to understand the music, because it is like playing an instrument.
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26. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nightime wrote:
-AA
-Baby's Tears
-CHAOS
-Fascination ~eternal love mix~
-Flow -true style-
-HAPPY*ANGEL
-HONEY^PUNCH
-INNOCENCE OF SILENCE
-LONG TRAIN RUNNIN'
-RED ZONE
-Tino's White Horse
-Xepher


How exactly are Baby's Tears, Happy Angel, and Honey Punch unique and memorable? They're pretty much comprised only of plain 8ths with jumps thrown in. And of course SuperNOVA has its share of very good charts (there are a few others I could throw on your list), but there is a much smaller number of them than there were in previous mixes.
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27. PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dj_sammylvr03 wrote

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If you understand music (ie: you take band, chorus, etc.) it is easier to understand the music, because it is like playing an instrument.


I see so does anyone agree that a DDR Pad is essentially a musical instrument? Why or why not ?

Also I was messing around with the DDR Extreme's edit mode and I notice they only have 1/4, 1/8, and 1/16 notes. What happen to eveything else? I heard someone mention early that all arrows just get rounded but if it does get rounded then wouldn't that make a particular arrow slower or faster ?

* Just looked at it again* ok now I see this triplet function and these are green.

Just so I'm clear

Red = 1/4

blue = 1/8

Yellow = 1/16

Green = meh ? ? ? does this represent 1/32 through 1/64 or something ? maybe someone with more experience with extreme's edit mode could clarify this . . .[/quote]
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28. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green = any other kind of note other than the aforementioned 3. It's usually 1/12 (triplets) but in some boss songs it's 1/32 (eg. FaxX). It's also 1/24 in Bag (I believe).
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29. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juppy wrote:
You guys are getting off topiiiiiiiic

Btw, when put on solo:
1/4 Notes - Orange
1/8 Notes - Blue
Everything else - Purple


4ths are red lol
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30. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4ths are red lol

Juppy wrote:
Btw, when put on solo:
1/4 Notes - Orange
1/8 Notes - Blue
Everything else - Purple

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31. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as in, the noteskin? well idk... my doctor said i am colorblind really bad, so i mix up colors alot.
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32. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, as in the noteskin. also, if you're that colorblind, you better stick to vivid.
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i certainly hope you're not referencing the SN chart for this.
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33. PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotACoolName wrote:
Most of the stepcharts that existed prior to SuperNOVA still followed the music... They just were more fun. Take a look at a MAX 2 song like Waka Laka or an EXTREME(?) song like Jet World, and then take a look at a SuperNOVA song like Himawari or Chikara. The SuperNOVA songs seem really boring and generic by comparison, don't they? Stepcharts like the ones in those two songs seem much less memorable and fun, since they pretty much don't do anything except follow music; the steps don't really have anything unique going for them. This, in my experience, is the case with numerous SuperNOVA stepcharts; there is a much lesser amount of good, quality stepcharts than in previous mixes.
Better yet, take a look at Fantasy Melissa.

One of the best chaotic Stepcharts I've ever played.

Not as fun as Lemmings on the Run; I like jumping as high as I can during the mines; I need to develop a freestyle routine to that song. =D

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34. PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does any one know the exact timing in which you need to press an arrow in order to get

Perfect

Great

Good

Almost

Boo

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35. PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squinn wrote:
Does any one know the exact timing in which you need to press an arrow in order to get

Perfect

Great

Good

Almost

Boo

Anybody ??? E15.gif


8th Mix Arcade:

JudgeWindowScale=1.000000
JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.120000
JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.150000
JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.120000
JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.090000
JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.015000
JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.120000
JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.250000
JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.030000
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36. PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.stepmania.com wrote:
Dance Dance Revolution 8th Mix (Extreme) Arcade

JudgeWindowScale=1.000000
JudgeWindowBooSeconds=0.133333
JudgeWindowGoodSeconds=0.083333
JudgeWindowGreatSeconds=0.066667
JudgeWindowMarvelousSeconds=0.016667
JudgeWindowOKSeconds=0.250000
JudgeWindowPerfectSeconds=0.033333


The 8th mix values are not certainties.

can we please stop asking for these now? i think i've seen this in 5 threads in under 3 months.
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37. PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotACoolName wrote:
Most of the stepcharts that existed prior to SuperNOVA still followed the music... They just were more fun. Take a look at a MAX 2 song like Waka Laka or an EXTREME(?) song like Jet World, and then take a look at a SuperNOVA song like Himawari or Chikara. The SuperNOVA songs seem really boring and generic by comparison, don't they?

I'm sorry, but what?! I can see your point, but to call any chart more boring than Jet World is a pretty terrible thing to do. The creation of that chart must have required all of four minutes and zero creativity. That chart's more tedious than it is enjoyable.

Personally I think if they followed the music more closely on a few songs, like Red Zone, or if they knew how rhythm worked Healing-D-Vision, the charts could be excellent. As they are they're decent but not spectacular. That said, deviating from the expected rhythm at times is a necessary function, because it creates a level of excitement and interest which you just won't get out of a cookie-cutter, follow-the-music chart. Unfortunately, successfully doing this without the steps being just stupid apparently requires a level of true creativity rarely -although sometimes- demonstrated by Konami. I dunno. There's a ton of wasted potential on SuperNOVA, but that's true of a lot of songs on every mix, and there's a lot of good songs too.
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38. PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jet world = freestyle. thats why its awesome.
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