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the TX-Series (mainly TX-4000 and TX-6000)
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Rabbid Hamster
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240. PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TX-2000 sucks.
I've only had it 4 months and already the back arrow is cracked. disgust.gif
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241. PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I finally have a problem with my TX-6000. The up arrow is being extremely dodgy and is causing me to get scores of around 70% on songs which I can easily score 90% on. That's a lot of unregistered steps. I unscrewed the arrow and lifted it up, and there doesn't seem to be any damage just underneath where the contacts are, so I think there must be a problem with the wires. However, I'm completely inexperienced with this kind of thing. I don't even know how to get to the wiring! Can anyone help me, because I can hardly afford a new pad right now.
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242. PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k well today i randomly started frick around with my tx-6000 trying to fix it and my dad randomly came up with the idea to put a piece of paper towel and i think sheet metal in between my A button and my right arrow. and what do you know its back to the way it was like 2 months ago. almost perfect and a couple pad misses every once in a while. i even got like 3 AAA's and 15 greats and a miss on paranoia survivor regular with my bad shoes (my vans when i usually wear nike free 7.0's). so idk that was a random idea that actually worked. now lets see how long this works for.
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243. PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. I've established that it's unlikely that the problem with my up arrow is the contacts. I've cleaned it extensively with nail varnish remover, I've thoroughly checked for any interfering protrustions and I've both tightened and loosened the screws that secure the arrow. I really don't know what to do now. I need some help! E2.gif
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244. PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobTheFish your probably have a problem with the wiring. Just like you, my up arrow stopped working. I got it fixed though, and now it works perfect.

How did I fix my pad:

First I filpped the pad upside down. I took a knive and cut almolst half of the bottom open. By doing so I had acces to the whole wiring of the pad. I noticed that 2 or 3 wires were rubbing each other, and the plastick coating of the wires was thorn open.

I cut the damaged parts of the wires and replaced them with new. Then I taped the wires firmly so that they wouldn't rub and break again.

The whole operation took little over one hour. After that, I have used my pad for almolst half year without any future problems. The technology of these dance pads is so simple that they can be ALWAYS fixed. It just requires some time and nerves.

Feel free to ask if you have problems.
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245. PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dad was a little sceptical about your post and seemed to think that you were trying to trick me into destroying my pad. In the end though, we did open it up from the bottom and we couldn't find anything wrong with the wires. It's a shame that my pad no longer has a nice black rubber coating on the bottom, but it was worth a try. I've just ordered a new control box, because that's the only potential problem I can think of. Thanks for the help, though.
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246. PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another possibility is that the wire has snapped right under the sensor. If this is the case, then you can't access the required place by ripping the bottom open. Before having the problem in the previouse post, I had this problem.

To fix this I had to remove the arrow and rip the glued sensor from the pad. From this process I even took some pictures, and I will upload them if requested. I don't recommend doing this if you don't know where the problem is!

The problem might be also in the control box like you described. However I haven't noticed anyone having problems with these new generation control boxes. If the new control box doesn't fix your problem, then it's almolst certain that the problem is in wiring.

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247. PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New control box did not fix the problem. The response from the up arrow has become even more scarce and is almost non-existant, making the pad completely unusable. Like I said, I've already opened it up from the bottom and I could not see any problems with the wires. If ripping up the sensor is really my only option, then please post the pictures you mentioned so I can be sure that you aren't having me on.
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248. PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bobthefish E1.gif

Im so sorry your still having trubble and hope you get it fixed soon, infact in this thread other people have mentioned that you open the panels from the top, but be curfull becouse the wires are conected to the metal.

Hey, my mother was from The Wirrel, and my father is from Garsden hehe

Hope everything is well with you soon and you get it fixed, maybe open up that panel and allso one that is working to see if they are the same.

I will do a search now to see if i can find any pics of the inside for you E1.gif

cheers

Roman ^.^
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249. PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a Tx4000? It looks like one, but there are stickers and is called XPG. Just wanted to make sure.
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250. PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well. I am not trying to fool you to destroy your pad. I am trying to help you to fix it. Here are some images. I hope they can be helpful.









These pictures were taken when I had first time problems with my pad. I first opened the bottom of my pad. Since the wires were ok, I figured that the problem is right under the problematic up arrow. After pulling carefully the sensor from the pad, I figured that the wire had snapped right under the sensor.

I took a soldering iron and tin. Then I carefully made a joint. The hardest part was ripping the sensor from the pad, because it was glued very hard.

If you encounter any problems, just ask. I am here to help you E1.gif
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251. PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help. However, something happened to my pad tonight that has completely confused me, and I really don't know what the problem is anymore. I was looking at my pad again and as far as I was aware, I hadn't changed anything, but there was a big difference when I tried it out again. The up arrow worked flawlessly, but at the expense of the left arrow, which showed no response whatsoever.

Anyone know what this implies?
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252. PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320097821826&fromMakeTrack=true

Is this a Tx4000? It looks like one, but there are stickers and is called XPG. Just wanted to make sure.
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253. PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to get my pad fixed. My last post wasn't completely correct - my left arrow HAD stopped working, but the up arrow hadn't fixed itself. It turns out that the up arrow wasn't working because of the black wire that travels to the left arrow and all of the others sequentially. The left arrow had stopped working because of its own specific wire. So conveniently, both of the unattached wires were beneath the sensor on the left arrow. Looked like the manufacturers had done a pretty poor soldering job. Fortunately, my Dad has a soldering iron, so we reattached them, and now the pad works flawlessly again.

I hope I haven't put anyone off buying this pad though. So maybe it isn't the most durable thing in the world, but any problems should be fixable when you regard the simplicity of its construction. Heck, it still took 14 months for me to even encounter a problem in the first place.In terms of performance, it is incredibly sensitive and is a wonder to use. I play up to 13 footers on ITG and it handles them fine. I've seen many people saying that it's impossible to do hands on it, but that's not true. Slapping the arrows won't work, but giving it a push usually works fine. I'm sure this baby will serve me well for a long time...
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254. PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine recently had problems ghosting and up arrow not working. I pulled the metal sensor to see no problems with the wires, so I looked at the metal arrow itself. The arrow is warped and you can see it dipped down from all the play over months time.

To correct this issue, I put felt bumpers on each corner of the sensor. Seems to work good again.

check the actual arrows and make sure it's not warped like both my game pads were.
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255. PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen Lunei wrote:
Oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320097821826&fromMakeTrack=true

Is this a Tx4000? It looks like one, but there are stickers and is called XPG. Just wanted to make sure.


yes it is. the XPG stickers probably won't be on there, it's a completely normal tx4000. BUY IT
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256. PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading a bit in this thread, I found out that the pad I'm borrowing (yeah right lol, he won't be getting this back til I can afford some DTs >.>) is indeed a TX-6500, and I must say I'm impressed. We're both heavy mode players (I weigh over twice as much as him by the way, at 250 pounds and it still holds up for me) and we usually play 9-11 foot songs, and so far it works perfectly, HOWEVER, if you weigh over 160 lbs. I would NOT reccommend using the bar too hard, it will tip the pad over. I usually just put a chair beside me and hold onto them both, but there's still some wobbling going on. However, I haven't experienced or seen one pad miss on this, pad NG, or anything, and it takes hands as well. All in all, I reccommend it to anyone who needs a metal pad and doesn't want to wait for the DT series. 9.5/10. >.>
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257. PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trexxen! How the heck did you or your friend get the TX-6500???? I wanted one so bad but could not find one that shipps to the US.
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258. PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know the wiring schematics of the tx4000? I'm building a homepad and would like to know so it would be compatible with my tx4000.
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Where is a good place in the US to buy the TX4000 with decent price and shipping? How is this place:

http://store.videogamecentral.com/txmeardapadd.html
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