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0. PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Sensor design Reply with quote

There should be a sticky of all the sensor designs. Anyways, here's one I made up based off my knowledge of tape/ribbon switches. I haven't tried it yet, so if you give a go and get positive results, let us know.

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1. PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to tweak that so that it's got 2 tubes pushing down the metal about 2 inches apart from each other. That way, it pushes down the centre more than the panel has to move.

Also, there's a sensor thread somewhere, if you want to dig it up, cool. If not, I probably will tomorrow, and then we can link it from one of the relevant stickies for reference.
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2. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

really why dont people just use micro switches

these dending metal designs will eventually fail when the metal stresses or warps
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3. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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really why dont people just use micro switches

these dending metal designs will eventually fail when the metal stresses or warps
Less than 26ga steel should be fine. Thin aluminum or 30ga steel will crack though.
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4. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia says it well: "Some materials (e.g., some steel and titanium alloys) exhibit an endurance limit or fatigue limit, a limit below which repeated stress does not induce failure, theoretically, for an infinite number of cycles of load. Most other non-ferrous metals (e.g., aluminium and copper alloys) exhibit no such limit and even small stresses will eventually cause failure." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fatigue

And on the topic of microswitches:
"They are very common due to their low cost and extreme durability, typically greater than 1 million cycles and up to 10 million cycles for heavy duty models. This durability is a natural consequence of the design. Internally a stiff metal strip must be bent to activate the switch." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microswitch

How your stress compares to the endurance limit will vary for each design, but in any case I think when sensors break its usually because the weatherstripping or other squishy materials wear out... those wont last nearly as long as any metal.
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5. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another reason for the micro switch no need for weather stripping or other crap
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6. PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

microswitches sound like a good idea, but how would your panel return to its original position? Would the springs in the switches be able to push it back up?
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7. PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

micro switches come in more than just the style inside your super advantage you know

you can get a compact micro switch that could puch a kia car if you needed it
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8. PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nfok3 wrote:
microswitches sound like a good idea, but how would your panel return to its original position? Would the springs in the switches be able to push it back up?


They may or may not be a good idea... when you buy them it will list how much force it takes to push the switch, so just pick a value that is greater than (weight of your arrow panel) divided by (number of switches per panel). Problems that you might run into are that they only travel about a millimeter or so... you need to position them pretty precisely, so plan ahead as to how you can mount them precisely. (They make ones with long lever arms, but I dont think these could support the weight of a thick acrylic step) They also might give your pad a clicky sound/feel, which you might not like. And most cost in the 2-3 dollar range, though they go down to about 50 cents a piece.

If youre cool with all that, then they are probably the way to go, as you can be pretty sure they'll work every time for a very long time.
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