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60. PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AA Bob wrote:
Yes, Sakura/bag/Xepher show up as 10s on the songwheel. Nobody is fucking debating that.


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The problem is that they're inconsistent in deciding what should be an 8, 9, 10, etc. Who's going to believe Fantasy Doubles is harder than Daikenkai Heavy Doubles, Witch Doctor, and Fly Away -mix del matador-?


Uhhh yeah. erm.gif
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61. PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And your point is...?
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So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)?
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62. PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We clearly are. Isn't that what this thread is pretty much about?
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63. PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There appears to be some miscommunication here. That post was directed at the people who say "Konami gave ___ a rating of x, that's the rating displayed in the game, that's why it's an x-footer" as if they're being insightful. Everybody knows that the displayed rating is what it is. We know what the official rating is and we know that it's probably never going to change; it's just that we don't agree with it.
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So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)?
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64. PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok well i played the xepher last sat on challenge and I passed it with a C. So that and Sakura are the only 10's i can beat. But for some reason i cant pass Max 300...its weird......so Xepher is sort of like an easy 10 or a middle ten.....comments?
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65. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xepher and Sakura are supposed to be easier than Max 300, especially the latter.
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66. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RBCF retunes wrote:
Xepher and Sakura are supposed to be easier than Max 300, especially the latter.


For me, Xepher Challenge is harder than Max300 is harder than Sakura.
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67. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i say everyone stops being complete retards and have a mod lock this topic.
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68. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty much turned into a clone of this.
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69. PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xopher wrote:

For me, Xepher Challenge is harder than Max300 is harder than Sakura.


You must not be very good with abnormal rhythms. I bet you think Xenon is hard, too.

MAX 300 is definitely easier to PA. That I agree with. But I'm not a PAer, so all I care about is how much energy I have to put into a song to pass it. That's how I determine difficulty. That's why I consider MAX 300 harder than Xepher.
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70. PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easier than So Deep or Cartoon Heroes, both 9's. It's stepchart is most like So Deep, but faster, less rhythmic, and with less 16th's.

Also, I say this having played So Deep and Xepher both at least 15 times, and Cartoon Heroes only 5. I base my "Cartoon Heroes" judgement on the fact that a player far superior to me says it's harder, not from personal experience. Results may vary.

Also, HVAM has 503 steps, but I wouldn't rate it a 10 at all, so the idea that 500+ steps = 10 is a pretty ineffective way to judge songs.

I'd say anything with over 650 steps is definitely a 10, and anything over 550 is likely to be a 10. Stuff over 450 is in candidacy, and anything under 450 is unlikely to be deserving of a 10.


There's my view of the issue. I didn't read the topic much, so any or all of those bases could have been covered previously for all I know.
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I don't see why konami didn't rate So Deep a 10 when Sakura was. I've played Xepher, Cartoon Heroses, And So Deep at least 100 times on the PS2 SN. Okay that might be exxagerrated, but then again.... Well, look whatever, Xepher's a 10 footer, can we just leave it at that?

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I used to say So Deep was a 10, but now I'd say it's just a really hard 9. Really, there needs to be a 9.5 rating, if only for So Deep, Cartoon Heroes, and Xepher.

One of the reasons I rate Xepher's chart lower is because it could easily be a 10, but the stepchart artist did a really horrible job.
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73. PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DancingTofu wrote:


Also, HVAM has 503 steps, but I wouldn't rate it a 10 at all, so the idea that 500+ steps = 10 is a pretty ineffective way to judge songs.

I'd say anything with over 650 steps is definitely a 10, and anything over 550 is likely to be a 10. Stuff over 450 is in candidacy, and anything under 450 is unlikely to be deserving of a 10.


There's my view of the issue. I didn't read the topic much, so any or all of those bases could have been covered previously for all I know.


Ah Ah, don't forget long mixes E10.gif. I say that you can't really judge 10s by amount of steps. Give a short enough song and a screwed up enough rhythm, a good stepartist could make a 10 in 250 steps. Heck, with a really irregular rhythm, you don't need that short a song, I wouldn't think.
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DancingTofu wrote:

I'd say anything with over 650 steps is definitely a 10, and anything over 550 is likely to be a 10. Stuff over 450 is in candidacy, and anything under 450 is unlikely to be deserving of a 10.
Number of steps is only a small factor in determining foot rating. There are a few 7's and 8's that come close to 450 and some 9's with less than 300.

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Ah Ah, don't forget long mixes.

Divide them by two.
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Step count does not matter look at july it has lik 803 steps and its only an 11.
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RBCF retunes wrote:
DancingTofu wrote:

I'd say anything with over 650 steps is definitely a 10, and anything over 550 is likely to be a 10. Stuff over 450 is in candidacy, and anything under 450 is unlikely to be deserving of a 10.
Number of steps is only a small factor in determining foot rating. There are a few 7's and 8's that come close to 450 and some 9's with less than 300.

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Ah Ah, don't forget long mixes.

Divide them by two.


Meanie...ruining my fun by trying to create exceptions...but you have a point :S.
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