The next generation...

[Charlie Likes Cake]

Group 3!!

And I agree with everything AA bob said I usually play itg home but ill want to play supernova and when I play it it just isnt fun so I play itg again. And I really hate felmo and hdvo those are horrible stepcharts and so is the beginning of faxxo I mean wtf?
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[FerociousChair]

dunno about your statistics but I'm 18 and I like to think i'm inbetween the "generations" as I get better I've found that it's fun to see things geared towards what the creator seems to think I should be statistically but the part that discourages me is that for a game with revolution in its name it sure dousn't offer a large number of readily avialable challenges. it's always fun to play with the settings and try doulbes mode for the first time but you run out eventually. personally I don't think I shouyld have to "keep myself focused" on any game let alone one that costs money to play. without people to compete against I would've quit a long time ago. I'm sure theres more fun ddr stuff out there somewhere but I just don't have the time or resources to get to it. So until I do I have to just "hope" the same ddr extreme songs can keep me entertained until it "eventually" finds it's way to me.

long story short I think ddr has a limited replay value and nobody(with the necessary game-making knowlege) is doing anything about it fast enough for a lot of average joes and jane dohs.

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[Diet]

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[Apoc]

These threads always make me a sad panda.

The thing is, I'm going to continue to play DDR even if Konami continually churns out a wealth of crappy songs in another boring new mix with some slight modifications to try to make a few people a little happier. The marginal gap between the easiest song available and the hardest song available will continue to skyrocket - ever since 6th mix, the so-called 'Boss Song' has been harder and crazier than the one before. Sure, ITG rocked the house by reviving a dying trend and showing everyone what the dance game genre is really capable of, but it's not over yet. Konami may not continue along the same path, but you know what? When I go to the arcade and play my SuperNOVA machine, I don't think about all of that. I'm there to enjoy myself and play a video game, which I do, even though deep down I recognize that I'm part of a dwindling minority playing a substandard game. It's all right. I'm one of two or maybe three people in a school of 2000 who actually plays DDR, let alone well, let alone competitively. It's dying. But what can we do about it? I think there's really nothing to do, unfortunately. If you can afford it, build your own machine. Play StepMania. I wouldn't just be satisfied with playing for myself though, I'd like to see the game regain its former glory and burgeoning popularity in the arcade scene and become what it once was. The thing is, I don't really know if it can.

I'm reminded of other trendy games I played which fizzled while I was still playing them. Pokemon for one is a great example. Everyone and their brother had Pokemon Red and/or Blue for their Gameboy and played them religiously. You could have a conversation about it with almost anyone. But as time went on the game diminished and, although Nintendo and Creatures continued to pump out new Pokemon games, they couldn't prevent its eventual and rapid decline. The thing is, I wasn't sad to see that trend dying, even though I had enjoyed it. I am sad to see DDR fading.

I fit neatly between the generations, a middle child of DDR history. I missed out on the early developmental years of the game and can only look back on them with a certain nostalgia and regret. I even missed out on the creation of ITG and its revolutionary take on the game. By the time I really got into the game, all I knew of was a handful of 8th mixes (which I figured were actually the first sequel of the game, since all I knew was that there was a DDR and a DDR Extreme) and that a new one, SuperNOVA was coming out soon. But I'm not a part of the new group which might breathe new life into the game. I'm just another one of the few who still love the game and play it regardless as to whether or not Konami is doing a good job. They're not. Unfortunately, you can't play the game without paying them for it, and I don't think even a large-scale boycott would send an appropriate message.

Sorry to ramble on. But as a last thought I'd like to point out that, although dying, it's far from dead. DDRfreak.com has 72,000 registered forum members. Groovestats has 5,100 members. DDRecall has 4,700 members. There's your elite, group 3 players right there. Those numbers could be so much higher, but we're nowhere near zero yet.
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[FerociousChair]

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[FerociousChair]

[Suko]

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[AA Bob]

[IdiotNinja]

(Stupid Side)
Maybe if Konami had added in songs that are like 5 minutes long or "deleted" songs, they would attract more players to DDR. I mean(boink)
(Normal Side)
You idiot, players don't probably have that much endurance to survive that long and the deleted songs are probably offensive execpt Max to the XXium.
(Stupid Side)
But those ideas may help get Konami get more(crash)
(Normal Side)
Thanks for testing my trap door. And besides, those are Stepmania's ideas. Don't make me call the police to arrest you for Copyright Infridgement.
(Stupid Side)
What if Stepmania make some kind of arcade thingy, then they could help Konam(doink)
(Normal Side) The stepmania people will get shut down before you know it. Konami thinks Stepmania will be copying them. Mom, where's my slapping glove?
(Stupid Side)
Just you wait, I will help Konami and protest against it too.
1 year later.
(Normal side)
Oh thanks a lot, stupid. You made the people shut down Stepmania, completely wiped out ITG off the face of the united states, you made all ddr fanbases dead, and You destroyed every dance game in every continent and somehow destroyed the deal with Roxor and Andamiro.
(Stupid Side)
mommy, he is yelling at me again.
(Mom)
I don't care about you, go away.


And that's what would happen if someone is stupid enough to do that. I am only trying to attract attention to DDR so that a new wave of people would be masters..... I'm kidding but I like playing DDR and ITG equally no matter how DDR sucks now but I like to do it just for FUN. I do think that veterans will move on to their lives but probably in the future with wife and kids. Those veterans or their kids may just revive DDR...or ITG because Konami could be dead.

I don't know.
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With the announcement of SuperNOVA 2, there's less (or hopefully no) need to worry.
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[FerociousChair]

personally I think ddr should have 8 steps


....


ninesteps





or something like this

.... ....
.... ....
.... ....

all for one player.

I would be much more interested then. unfortunately I doubt it will happen I imagine this has been discussed before and whoever metioned it was vebally beat to a pulp and it would not only make the game cost twice as much. I bet a death run on doubles wouldn't be an exageration but I still would be more interested.

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[FerociousChair]

I just meant something along those lines. I thing the game is too simple as is. not easy just simple. like beating up mike tyson. it's a simple concept if you can get close enough to fight him but it isn't necessarily easy. anyway konami or whoever can work out the physics and the arrow thing. I'm just another opinionated paying customer. I'd rather suck at a complex game then be good at an easy one. (ima mediocre chess player for example) also I really hate how burger king is doing the whole commercialism thing with DDR. I don't mind the commercial itself so much as I do the fact that the commercial sucked and it being burgerking the DDR toy probrably sucked too I bet. DDR has enough of a *wispers* dorky feel to it without Burgerkings help.

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[Julie QQQ...?]

I so bought the toys.

I'm glad this thread was made, and the brunt of what I wanted to say was said already.

As a member of the "Group 3" aspect of the game, it's very much so gone downhill. Sure, you have the big things that Konami does to appease it's "hardcore" fanbase like Faxx and Supernova and whathaveyou, but they dug their own grave by not pushing their fanbase harder. When most of us "old school" folk started, yes, there were those weirdos doing super-well on Max 300 and whatnot, but the bell curve middle was definitely closer to basic/light. Paranoia, a 6-footer on basic, was your rite-of-passage into the majority of the country's competitive DDR world. Konami put out Extreme with almost every type of step pattern they'd ever introduce without a thought of the game expanding itself anywhere else other than Japan.

Konami says they want to appease all players, but if you look at all the little things that mean a lot to the hardcore Group 3 players, such as affordable replacement sensors for existing hardware, synching issues, and harder, more creative charts... it took them way too much time to address those types of things. It's not profitable to market to us anyway. How many of those Group 1's or 2's will progress to Group 3? How many of them will play Burning heat knowing that the triplets are not even? Casual players (anywhere from light to heavy) have taken over the game as long as Konami does the brunt of the marketing to them.

One only needs to look at the Wall or any of the discussion board posts on the Facebook DDR group to see my point.