Roxor settlement officially accepted, RedOctane also settles

[AA Bob]

Why didn't they keep Basic, Trick, and Maniac? Things change, it's not a big deal.
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Emptyeye wrote:

So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)?

[Joel Stud?!]

1- None of the points you brought up make a good case for ITG being "different" from DDR anymore than any one release of DDR is different than another. Sure they changed things up, but it's still the same gameplay- the itme over which Konami sued. Regardless of what type of music it featured, what kinds of interesting mods they used, and what types of steps they made, ITG is almost completely unoriginal in the fact that it does not stray baisc 4-panel gameplay, scoring, and for the most part layout and content.

2- Challenge has only been around since Max2 (Console versions... I'm no expert on the arcade versions, but those aren't techincally for the US anyways), and has also taken the name "oni" after the difficult non-stop mode, although not in actual gameplay. That was a total of three console releases featuring the "challenge" difficulty. In addition the "challenge" songs in Max 2, and many in extreme, were actually seperate from the rest of the songlist in the sense that there were no other available charts for them. In Extreme 2 this changed, marking the first console release in which the challenge difficulty was used [in its entirety] the same way as in SuperNova. The name changes in the end don't effect gameplay anyways; the only reason there would possibly be for not changing them is for nostalgia, but who would really care that much anyways?

[Marq(uistadorous)]

[Scintilla]

Zakuseth: When did they ever change Challenge?

[Wolfman Jake]

[Mostly_Harmless]

sigh lets just simply put it that the world is just sue happy...Anyway as in most cases the person with the most money will usually win the case. thats our legal system folks. Man i could only imagine if roxor had money and good lawyers like OJ simpson(guilty as hell)! . but it's a shame the rich and greedy always wins. =( (Not that im comparing roxor to oj hehehe I personally find what roxor did was fine). The arcade managers can do whatever they want to there ddr machines it's there proprety.
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Official Pump It Up/ITG supporter for N.J.

[Edible Bondage Tape]

[)N)D(S(]

well , i must agree ... just cause you baught ur own computer with windows on it ... doesnt necessarily mean you can install windows on every other computer just cause they are YOUR COMPUTERS... Same thing goes for any expensive software... Its like taking a computer with windows .. selling a software that converts it into Mac .. and make profit off of it ... thats not right at all .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmR0eUkkG0M

[Joel Stud?!]

[Chaotix(Keby)]

Since Konami owns the intellectual property of in the groove doesn't mean that in the groove is dead 100%. Konami could let Roxor still make in the groove, it would just be copyrighted under konami, and all money would go to them.

[RBCF retunes]

I was under the impression Roxor wasn't allowed to make dance games anymore.
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Slowpoke: Ah, so that's how He created the universe so quickly... He was hopped up on caffeine. Thanks for clearing up that philosophical mystery...

PooingCavy: (About difficulty levels) If I could make it up, it would be: Water, Soda, Coffee, Red Bull, ADHD

[Zeta Aspect]

Warning: I am not entirely sure that everything I write is factual. I may be wrong, but I think I'm probably right.

[RBCF retunes]

[Zeta Aspect]

Hmm...If TechnoMotion were more official...Konami + RoXoR + Andamiro = ZOMG!

That would be awesome.
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[Scintilla]

[Zeta Aspect]

So, what does the arcade owner own? If the machine were owned by the arcade, then the arcade could do as it pleases (excepting, of course, illegal copying of the system, etc.). Is an arcade machine like a cable box? I had thought not.

You know, if this case had been settled in court, I don't think we'd be discussing the legality of the infringement.

And here's something else I hastily realized:
Why isn't 4-panel dance gaming considered a genre? Isn't jungle music considered a genre, even though it is a subgenre of drum 'n' bass? Could someone, potentially, obtain exclusive rights over jungle? There's a better example, perhaps using rock-and-roll, but I think I've made my shaky point.

Oh well. I guess there's a different place somewhere for learning exactly how the legal issues are structured in this situation. Does anyone know of a good place to go to understand how the case worked, and exactly what was illegal (and why)?
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[Zeta Aspect]

[A2P]

[Zeta Aspect]

Everybody who is already anti-Konami is going to feel really awkward if Konami doesn't kill or maim ItG.
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