Roxor lawsuit settled, Konami inherits ITG franchise

TheManator · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:

I just hope Konami puts some sort of fun factor into ITG rather than the super-extremeo challenging charts.

I would like to see some sort of mesh between the two. The end of DDR and ITG and from their ashes rises a new game.

Mostly_Harmless · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:41 am Post subject:

No one seems to have really answered my question here. I want to know if roxor never touched the konami cabs and went straight to making there own dedis would this still be a problem since konami had a patent to dance games? Also what exactly went on with konami and andamiro and what was the exact resolution? thx

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mb41186 · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject:

Hopefully Koonami isn't stupid and doesn't Rid ITG completely.. It was a great game and a lot of people loved it..

I like the idea of Redesigning the Game.. and Mixing DDR and ITG into one ultimate Dance game..

with the ITG Mods, Arrows, DDR Backgrounds and Awesome Songs.. they should all just work together and make one awesome game..
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)N)D(S( · Trick Member Joined: 03 Oct 2006

ur damn right .. RIC FLAIR will save ITG !!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

)N)D(S( · Trick Member Joined: 03 Oct 2006

Well , because Konami has more rights on more songs... they also have a lot more songs in total ... although a lot of them arent that great ... theirs classic songs are still very good .. and all they would need to do is make harder stepcharts for them ... Imagine Max 300 , ITG style , i mean like , the same stepchart with a few imrovememnts and a few adons.. with mines and stuff ... that would make it more interesting .. either Konami kepps ITG and uses it to compete against themselves ... ( smart ) or they combine both machine into an ultimate dance game , which would be even better ... i can see it .. "GROOVELUTION ULTIMATE MIX" i personally think that would be the sickest thing ever.

pimpmachine · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject:

mb41186 · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject:

its funny cuz we just got a Dedicab maybe at the beginning of summer in one of our arcades.. so we lucked out I guess.. the only thing is the people wont let us do anything to the machine.. those azzes..

anywayz.. Konami shouldn't be stupid like that and kill ITG permanently.. I would be discouraged to play if that was the case..
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Syncopation · Trick Member Joined: 03 Feb 2003

Considering that Stepmania itself is modeled after DDR (yeah, I know, it has various arrow schemes and arrow modifiers but it's still a very Konami DDR-like arrow arrangement)--I still think RoXoR Games would have had to face an inevitable lawsuit from Konami.

That's because as I understand it, the Stepmania engine was apparently implemented with custom ITG features, and the resultant game of ITG was subsequently sold for profit in the form of Boxors first, then dedicated cabinets later on.

Converting DDR machines to ITG probably just added more credibility to the lawsuit vs. just suing for Stepmania alone--so at that point, not only was a potentially infringing game engine being used for profit, but it was also being used in Konami designed DDR machines.

In contrast, Stepmania itself is a free download--so even though Stepmania may or may not technically infringe on any Konami patents when run on a PC and played with a third party controller, no other implementation of Stepmania is being sold for profit, at least, none that I am aware of.

Disclaimer: not a lawyer, but just these are just my own opinions expressed in this post.

TheManator · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:58 am Post subject:

Well, we'll all (or maybe) find out in Dec and/or Jan...as I am sure and unsure that is when/if Konami may or may not release more/less info.

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triad.spacefight · Trick Member Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Location: OKC

ITG3 is done for.

This was confirmed tonight by a reliable source at our Pump tournament, who has a friend who was doing artwork for ITG3. He was told about it earlier in the week, apparently.

And I'm sorry if this sounds non-credable, but I trust this guy, so. Take it for what you will.

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Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

If Konami does kill ITG, maybe Roxor and Andamiro can do what they seem to do best: work together to make an awesome product even better. Imagine pump with ITG type features like USB slots for data tracking. Mabye even create a fifth station of ITG type music in one of the newer Pump versions.

I should mention soemthing about this while I'm at WPF.
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TheManator · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

Edit: Post removed.

pimpmachine · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:

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Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I had intended to stop posting in this thread, but I wanted to make sure people were able to read this. It's the text of the settlement order before the court which has been accepted, meaning that this is no longer a proposed settlement.