Roxor lawsuit settled, Konami inherits ITG franchise

KingofLight06 · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:24 am Post subject:

Well, since Konami catered to the general public, that's why their fanbase is so much larger, and they have been out about 8 years. There was a cry from the a specific hardcore group of players, and Roxor answered to it. Roxor catered ITG to these players, so the fanbase is obviously going to be smaller.
So, I feel (aka "in my opinion") that success of a game is to be measured by how generally happy their fans are with the game. Thus, even though ITG's fanbase is smaller, I feel that ITG is more successful in that its fans were generally more content with the game.
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Eh, it's not that bad. When you're playing Single, and you're really tuned in, you hardly even notice it.

Everytime I read this, I see "Eh, it's not that bad. When you're single, and really turned on, you hardly even notice it"

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Tobias Preener · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

So, is it possible my copy of ITG for PS2 might be worth something someday?
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jpoppyz · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

if konami owns everything related to ITG, how about they sprinkle ITG songs onto DDR mixes, up the scale to 12, and have the DDR difficulties stay how they are, only always have oni stepcharts(well, at least 90%, like ITG), and just sorta add ITG songs so sneakily that people who have never played DDR before wouldnt even know what hit them.

also, maybe have a 3-D arrow skin in vein of the ITG scale along with a special percent scoring option. That way, ITG players wouldnt doggy and DDR players could avoid all the ITG songs and keep DDR the way they like it, just with some new(totally optional) really hard step patterns. Also, they could stop making these "Stellar/Dance Master" modes so maditory for unlocking stuff, so ITG fans once again won't doggy about that either.

how the songlist would work.

20-30 licences
20-30 ITG songs
30-40 Konami originals

also notice the amped songlist of 70-110 songs. supernova had about 76, which should be bare minumum in this day and age. PIU: exceed CS had like, 103 songs. Follow it DDR! OR perhaps defeat it!

and if they continue to have an xbox, PS2, and 360 version, they really need more songs, so they better hope that back catalog of ITG songs is available!
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you might be able to grab a cool 30 bucks for it on ebay 10 years from now.... does that answer your question?
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In thinking about, I see no reason for Konami to, at the very least, release ITG3. It seemed (to me at least) that it was done, or very close to being done and that alone would be some good cash for Konami right there. There's a decent enough amount of arcade operators looking for ITG3 and I think it would be a much cheaper buy for the arcade than SuperNOVA at this point consider I have yet to see an upgrade kit.

I just hope to see ITG continue on in some form personally.

I love DDR, I love ITG, I just think ITG is more fun and I personally like the music better.

Let us just hope this deal turns out good for the dance game community.
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IF roxor games itself is still not Acquired as mentioned above...

Can we still have our tournaments sponsored by roxor ? , i guess soo since i can get sponsored by anything else why not roxor..?

Da-Risin-Smoke · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:

I guess we better look at Red Octane as much as we can before it disappears.

(Don't blink.)
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Personally, I don't see why Konami couldn't (and for that matter, *wouldn't*) simply sponsor Roxor to dev ITG -for- them. Which isn't too unlike Betson's participation in DDR SuperNOVA. And technically, ITG would then become a BEMAMI game, which could feature song crossovers into DDR; but even if they did, the stepcharts would be really altered - both for DDR songs to include stuff like mines and multi-hits, and for ITG songs to disinclude them.

But then, technically, they're still very different beasts, just as the PS2 DDR's and the Ultramix series are. I don't see SN2 featuring "Power Courses", "Quad Mode", or "Songpacks"; and I don't see UM's featuring "Nonstop", "Oni", or "Endless". They share songs, and even a few of those get "whoopsied", but ultimately, they're pretty different. And even though KCET (?) acquired KCEH (or at least the UM series), UM4 and Uni are still in production.

I just wonder what stepcharts "the merge of them" will have for "Tough Enough".

Heck, for that matter, since the extra features were only used in "Challenge" sets for the most part, "ITG" may even become another game mode, like "SSR" once was. o.O

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0rion · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject:

Let's think clearly on this for a change.

Roxor has not been incorporated into Konami of America.

That means ITG original artists will NOT be making songs for ITG. That means no Kyle Ward.

That means song licenses that were given only to Roxor will NOT be used.

That means the programmers that were working on it are NO LONGER working on it.

There's already DDR, and NO REASON for Konami to make a completely different series with not even CLOSE to as much name-recognition.

Scoff if you will, but mark my words:

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ITG3 IS DEAD. There goes the point of all my endless rants about how much I hated SuperNOVA.
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Tobias Preener · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject:

Im just going to come out and say this: Konami is an asshole. They are just selfish and dont care about other dancers. Even if ITG did infringe on their patent, ITG wads barely cutting into their sales, and now theyve ended the fun for everyone. Goddamnit Konami.

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