R21 Patch

warl0k · Trick Member Joined: 19 Jan 2004

Revision 21

File: ITG 2 r21.itg (http://www.inthegroove.com/downloads/itg2_arcade/ITG%202%20r21.itg)

Released: October 11 2006

Changes:

* Fix delayed input issue on some upgrade kits.
* Add support for song edits. This is disabled by default, and can be enabled in the service menu.
* Includes all fixes from Revision 16 and earlier.

Discuss. IMO it basically kills the identity of the game. No point in Roxor ever creating another game/patch again. GG
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jbean3535 · Trick Member Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: KC Kansas

I still havent gotten credit for telling everyone

. Yeah, I went to get our R16 and found this. Nice additional features though.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:

You can only stream songs <120 seconds right now though (though that might be reworked in later versions). I think there would still be incentive enough to have games beyond ITG2 (have later versions contain new features, better hardware, etc). This seems to me to be of greatest mega-benefit to people who have like 8 GB flash drives that want to store every possible SM file they ever had on it and play it at the arcade. Roxor's hardcore group of fans will surely take advantage of this, but the "ideal" target audience (the large number of people who don't know much about anything but give the machine profit by sheer volume (like how most of DDR is)) isn't going to necessarily use it. Hell, I didn't have a USB card for the longest time because I simply didn't want to buy one (then I found one for free so I guess I had it both ways).
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EvilDave219 · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:27 am Post subject:

This feature is limited compared to hax0red cabs in that-

1. You can only load songs off of your USB. You cannot pernamently store them on the machine harddrive
2. As stated earlier, songs have to be less than 2 minutes in length, and considering that there are several ITG songs that are longer than 2 minutes, this is severly limiting
3. If you scroll over the song on the machine, it will not play any kind of preview music.
4. The machine will not read any backgrounds or banners put on it, and will instead display generic ones. I'm guessing Roxor did this to prevent people from playing stepfiles with Goatse as the background. (even though it was always possible to do by hacking the machine).

Not bad, but I'll stick to my haxed R16 cab.
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yyr · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:53 am Post subject:

WOW.

WOW.

WOW.

WOW.

WOW.

x500000

This opens up a billion new possibilities. And it's completely supported by RoXoR, so nobody needs to hack anything any more.

I love you, RoXoR. First all of ITG1 + 2 at home for 30 bucks, and now this.
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DahrkDaiz · Trick Member Joined: 07 Mar 2004

I have to say... I was a dedicated DDR fanboy but now, with this, I have to make the switch. Supernova won't be getting anymore of my cash

Arctic Wolves · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Canada

I hate to use the L word, but I have to wonder the, er, legality involved with, say, throwing your tokens in a machine and playing your (insert licensed song here) simfile. Along with the inevitable possibility of people throwing DDR songs on there, with Konami already displeased about seeing their cabinets gutted for BoXoRs, now you are going to see songs Konami owns the rights to appearing on RoXoR cabinets (since everyone's got a billion custom IIDX/pop'n/GF/DM simfiles they'd love to play).

I'd definitely use it though.

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Synaesthesia · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:34 am Post subject:

This seems to me like it's an extension of hacking the cabinets. From what I can tell, Roxor's policy has been "the cabinet's yours, so do what you want with it." Before someone says "but mang, they asked us not to hack," I think it's because if the information was massively widespread, you could have some idiot who has no idea what they're doing showing up to the arcade, completely fucking it up, all without the arcade owner's consent. If the arcade owner decides to allow hacking, then it's their machine, they can do what they want with it. Similarly, they could choose to install or not install R21, knowing that it's also the individual users who have the (mostly illegal) content with them, and it's not stored on the machine itself.
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Spork · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:44 am Post subject:

IMHO, this is a bad business move. Some arcades out there may take advantage of this and tell all their customers that they won't be upgrading because of this...
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:50 am Post subject:

How so? A new mix isn't necessarily ONLY songs; newer features and modes seem like a perfectly reasonable reason to upgrade (considering the cost of upgrading is not that much anyway).
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Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

Upgrading a machine would actually attract more customers to the arcade so I don't see a reason why an arcade wouldn't. The fact that songs must be under 2:00 means that games will take about as long as normal.

The cost of upgrading is virtually zero if the owner upgrades at non-peak hours.

Or do you mean a bad business move for roxor? I'm not sure whether you meant the arcade or roxor, but I was assuming the arcade. My bad if I'm wrong.
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Spork · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:00 am Post subject:

I meant for roxor. Some arcade managers (namco lol) would take advantage of this being out, and bisically tell us that since we can bring in new songs, they refuse to upgrade. Which means less money for roxor, which means no more mixes.
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VxJasonxV · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:46 am Post subject:

I have two responses to this thread, mostly re: "No new games ever lol"

1) Rolls (get the reference?)
2) GRAPHICS, ART, and GROOVESTATS
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Oh, and ITGNet, or whatever that thing was called.
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does it work for upgrade cabs?
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koffan · Trick Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento

Strangely, I'm still 100% loyal to DDR, but I think it's a good move for RoXoR. I'm usually anti-them, but it's pointless. I've never played ITG2, and though I don't like the music, this is a pretty good thing.

One more thing. Probably been asked a billion times before, but is there going to be a home version of ITG2? I'm more of a home version player, and I think I'd appreciate ITG more if I was able to get one that wasn't crappily censored.
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frzamonkey · Trick Member Joined: 15 Mar 2002

question:

I have my mp3s transferred to .ogg. if the stepfiles need to be in .sm format, how do i transfer my .dwi files? or is that a no go?

Arti · Trick Member Joined: 03 May 2004