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DarkCore
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0.  Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: Question about the MMB BlueShark Pad |
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This question is for people who own a Blueshark.
How sturdy is the bar on this pad? Does it move alot when you play on it like the TX pads? Does anyone have a video of someone playing on a Blueshark while using the bar? Just want to make sure it's sturdy if I do happen to get one. Also, what does MyMyBox mean when they say that this pad has "arcade foot sensors"?
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irvineking1980
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| 1. Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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if you look at the blueshark metal pad forum, you can find out more detail information.
MYMYBOX is using the same sensor that arcade machine use.
here is the forum you might want to check it out. This guy is playing ddr on blueshark metal pad with a handle bar.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109360&start=220 |
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DarkCore
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| 2. Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| irvineking1980 wrote: | if you look at the blueshark metal pad forum, you can find out more detail information.
MYMYBOX is using the same sensor that arcade machine use.
here is the forum you might want to check it out. This guy is playing ddr on blueshark metal pad with a handle bar.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109360&start=220 |
Thanks alot!
That's exactly what I needed. I'm probably going to buy a Blueshark now instead of a Flux.  |
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 3. Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| DarkCore wrote: | | I'm probably going to buy a Blueshark now instead of a Flux. |
Go for it. I actually think I'd rather have a blueshark, just cause of the bar and it feels a bit more like an arcade pad. 
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DarkCore
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| 4. Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Marquistadorous wrote: | | DarkCore wrote: | | I'm probably going to buy a Blueshark now instead of a Flux. |
Go for it. I actually think I'd rather have a blueshark, just cause of the bar and it feels a bit more like an arcade pad. |
The only thing stopping me from buying one though (other than the fact that they are out of stock), is that the bar moves wobbles back and forth during hard songs. If I bar-raped a Heavy song like I usually do, would the bar hold up after alot of bar-raping use?  I'd like to have a Blueshark because I hear it's really sensitive and I could play ITG and easily do hands without slapping the arrows really hard.
On the other hand, I want to buy a Cobalt Flux because it's extremely durable, and I'm sure that it will last. I just don't want to spend MORE on a Blueshark pad that's not going to last very long.
How long would you guess that a blushark pad would last? Would it be around the same length as a Flux? (It's going tobe used on 7, 8 and 9 footers...and 10's when I desperately try to pass. XD)
EDIT: One last thing. Why the the hell is the Blueshark with the bar $400.00? Doesn't that seem a bit overpriced? O_o'' Is the price ever going to drop to $300.00 perhaps? (Same price as the Flux.)
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 5. Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| DarkCore wrote: |
How long would you guess that a blushark pad would last? Would it be around the same length as a Flux? (It's going tobe used on 7, 8 and 9 footers...and 10's when I desperately try to pass. XD)
EDIT: One last thing. Why the the hell is the Blueshark with the bar $400.00? Doesn't that seem a bit overpriced? O_o'' Is the price ever going to drop to $300.00 perhaps? (Same price as the Flux.)
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Isn't the flux more than 300 bucks? Anyways, since your not doing 10s - 13s quite yet (But you'll be that good before you know it if you keep playing and tring hard), I can guarantee that the blueshark will last you a long while, that is IF you know how to fix some MINOR problems it MIGHT have AFTER A WHILE. And about the bar, I pretty sure it will hold up for you fine. Of course it's not gonna be 100% perfectly stable, but if you tighten it enough and keep it tight, it's probably gonna be fine. And even if it is wobbly, it'll work. I mean the itg2 machine I play on has really loose bars, but when your playing, you don't really notice and they work fine. It's not like the tx pad bars where the bar itself bends and the welding easily breaks.
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DarkCore
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| 6. Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Marquistadorous wrote: | | DarkCore wrote: |
How long would you guess that a blushark pad would last? Would it be around the same length as a Flux? (It's going tobe used on 7, 8 and 9 footers...and 10's when I desperately try to pass. XD)
EDIT: One last thing. Why the the hell is the Blueshark with the bar $400.00? Doesn't that seem a bit overpriced? O_o'' Is the price ever going to drop to $300.00 perhaps? (Same price as the Flux.)
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Isn't the flux more than 300 bucks? Anyways, since your not doing 10s - 13s quite yet (But you'll be that good before you know it if you keep playing and tring hard), I can guarantee that the blueshark will last you a long while, that is IF you know how to fix some MINOR problems it MIGHT have AFTER A WHILE. And about the bar, I pretty sure it will hold up for you fine. Of course it's not gonna be 100% perfectly stable, but if you tighten it enough and keep it tight, it's probably gonna be fine. And even if it is wobbly, it'll work. I mean the itg2 machine I play on has really loose bars, but when your playing, you don't really notice and they work fine. It's not like the tx pad bars where the bar itself bends and the welding easily breaks. |
$299.99 for the pad itself, and $46.00 shipping per pad to Canada. So around $350.00 in total. Blueshark is $399.99 but that doesn't include shipping, does it? Over $400.00 for a Blueshark? Not sure if I'd spend that much, but it's still an option considering I'd have to build a base mod with a bar for the Cobalt Flux if I got it. It'd probably equal out to the same amount as a Blueshark. Any idea if the Blueshark is going to drop in price any time soon? (Considering it's still new.)
I could get a Flux or a Blueshark now, and get the other for Christmas. Only problem with that I couldn't really play doubles mode. Stepping off a pad onto a higher platform would be awkward.
I dunno I'm still deciding on which pad to get. Hopefully I'll make up my mind, and get a pad soon, because I'm getting my In The Groove game tommorrow and I want a metal pad to play it on.
EDIT: Haha, I can pretty much pass one ITG 10 footer which is Queen of Light Expert, and I could pass Charlene Expert with a no-mine mod. (11 footer) I'm not really that familiar with many ITG songs. XD
2ND EDIT: How good would the Cobalt Flux be for playing In The Groove? Would you have to hit the arrows hard like at the arcade? Playing at the arcade hurts my hands. I have to slap them too hard. Is it the same with a Flux? I assume the Blushark would be more sensitive and better for playing ITG on right? |
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zombiejesus9001
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| 7. Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| cf pads are pretty good with itg u dont really have to slap u just touch like u can just use fingers and tap lightly and the cf pad will register hands |
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ChilliumBromide
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| 8. Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Haha, I just recently played on some CF's the wouldn't register less than 60 lbs.
Trying to AAA on those was a pain. xP
I didn't even attempt any ITG charts with hands.
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| 9. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| DancingTofu wrote: | Haha, I just recently played on some CF's the wouldn't register less than 60 lbs.
Trying to AAA on those was a pain. xP
I didn't even attempt any ITG charts with hands. |
so which one is better? CF or BlueShark?
since you played on both CF and BlueShark, can you tell us which one is better? Thanks in advance
http://www.cobaltflux.com/products_cobalt.htm
http://www.mymybox.com/ddrmbsgxg.html |
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zombiejesus9001
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| 10. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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honestly heres how it goes
if u want the most sensative pad go for the cf
if u want a pure arcade pad go for the mymbox
honestly i would just go for the cf its been around longer uve seen the good and bad for that pad and u pretty much know for a fact its gonna last
the mymybox is pretty much new noone seems to know really how long its gonna last and how great its gonna last. but if u really want a mymybox i would just wait untill people start having problems so u know how many problems it can have and how to fix it or how good there customer service can be to help fix it for u. |
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vesper
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| 11. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| I've had more problems with my CF than with my BlueShark. With the CF I hated having to debow the arrows, and then installing the arcade mod kit later on was a real pain. The BlueShark has been great right out of the box, and I also find it to be a very sensitive pad, so sensitivity isn't really an issue. |
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irvineking1980
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| 12. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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if u want the most sensative pad go for the cf
Have you played both CF and mymybox BlueShark Metal pad? if you did not play on both pads, do not give us wrong information. if you played on both CF and Blueshark metal pad, then tell us your personal opinion
if u want a pure arcade pad go for the mymbox
honestly i would just go for the cf its been around longer uve seen the good and bad for that pad and u pretty much know for a fact its gonna last
Another wrong information!
To me, it seems that MYMYBOX has been around longer than CobaltFlux
MYMYBOX 1999 /
CobaltFlux 2002 June or 2003 /
the mymybox is pretty much new noone seems to know really how long its gonna last and how great its gonna last. but if u really want a mymybox i would just wait untill people start having problems so u know how many problems it can have and how to fix it or how good there customer service can be to help fix it for u.
I will personally wait until next month or thanksgiving! before I make a decision on purchasing a metal pad - either CF or BlueShark metal pad, I will test both CF and Blueshark metal pad. I played on my friend's CF a few times and waiting for my friend's order (mymybox blueshark metal pad) to come so that I can play on it too. |
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vesper
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| 13. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| I own both a CF and a BlueShark. I like the BlueShark a lot more, end of story |
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zombiejesus9001
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| 14. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| irvineking1980 wrote: | if u want the most sensative pad go for the cf
Have you played both CF and mymybox BlueShark Metal pad? if you did not play on both pads, do not give us wrong information. if you played on both CF and Blueshark metal pad, then tell us your personal opinion
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Yes I have played on both pads both pads have there weakness's like everything else. The cf will stay as sensative from day one. And the blueshark will not. The blueshark uses arcade sensors and like arcade sensors they will degrade over time. Have you played on a brand new arcade cabnet? There pads are just as sensative as a blue shark but over time of course they will degrade in sensativity.
| Quote: | if u want a pure arcade pad go for the mymbox
honestly i would just go for the cf its been around longer uve seen the good and bad for that pad and u pretty much know for a fact its gonna last
Another wrong information!
To me, it seems that MYMYBOX has been around longer than CobaltFlux
MYMYBOX 1999 /
CobaltFlux 2002 June or 2003 /
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When I ment cf has been around longer I ment the style of the pad. There pad has always been the same and rarely has it changed in style. The blueshark is pretty much brand new and the pads before it made by mymybox havnt been that good. If anyone remembers the pads before it they have been well known to have arrow shatters within a week or two of play or dead sensors due to the fact the contacts were nothing but foil and a circut board. |
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ChilliumBromide
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| 15. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | When I ment cf has been around longer I ment the style of the pad. There pad has always been the same and rarely has it changed in style. The blueshark is pretty much brand new and the pads before it made by mymybox havnt been that good. If anyone remembers the pads before it they have been well known to have arrow shatters within a week or two of play or dead sensors due to the fact the contacts were nothing but foil and a circut board. |
Actually, I played on a 2-year-old set of CF's a couple weeks ago.
The sensitivity was the worst I've ever experienced with a pad that wasn't completely broken, the feel was terrible, the only thing that was similar in design were the botton decals, two people got cut on the sharp edges, they weighed about 85 pounds each, and they slid about twice as much as my $70 generic eBay metal pad.
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zombiejesus9001
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| 16. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| DancingTofu wrote: | | Quote: | | When I ment cf has been around longer I ment the style of the pad. There pad has always been the same and rarely has it changed in style. The blueshark is pretty much brand new and the pads before it made by mymybox havnt been that good. If anyone remembers the pads before it they have been well known to have arrow shatters within a week or two of play or dead sensors due to the fact the contacts were nothing but foil and a circut board. |
Actually, I played on a 2-year-old set of CF's a couple weeks ago.
The sensitivity was the worst I've ever experienced with a pad that wasn't completely broken, the feel was terrible, the only thing that was similar in design were the botton decals, two people got cut on the sharp edges, they weighed about 85 pounds each, and they slid about twice as much as my $70 generic eBay metal pad. |
Well did they get them from cf or from a private seller? sounds like a private seller if only the bottom decals were the same thats a problem there and also were they wearing shoes? cause your soppose to wear shoes on metal pads even the blueshark pad your soppose to wear shoes |
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maki2sang
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| 17. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| zombiejesus9001 wrote: | | DancingTofu wrote: | | Quote: | | When I ment cf has been around longer I ment the style of the pad. There pad has always been the same and rarely has it changed in style. The blueshark is pretty much brand new and the pads before it made by mymybox havnt been that good. If anyone remembers the pads before it they have been well known to have arrow shatters within a week or two of play or dead sensors due to the fact the contacts were nothing but foil and a circut board. |
Actually, I played on a 2-year-old set of CF's a couple weeks ago.
The sensitivity was the worst I've ever experienced with a pad that wasn't completely broken, the feel was terrible, the only thing that was similar in design were the botton decals, two people got cut on the sharp edges, they weighed about 85 pounds each, and they slid about twice as much as my $70 generic eBay metal pad. |
Well did they get them from cf or from a private seller? sounds like a private seller if only the bottom decals were the same thats a problem there and also were they wearing shoes? cause your soppose to wear shoes on metal pads even the blueshark pad your soppose to wear shoes |
I played on 1 year old CF and new blueshark metal pad (2nd edition) last week. I have to say blueshark metal pad is alot better than CF.
1. Sensativity (Blueshark > CobaltFlux)
you can improve the score from A to AA or AA to AAA with blueshark.
2. Durability (Blueshark > CobaltFlux)
Very strong and thick. you can not imagine how strong and heavy it is.
3. Arcade feeling (Blueshark > CobaltFlux) :
I like the BlueShark a lot more. When I play on CF, I had a feeling of pressing or mushing in. With Blueshark metal pad, it is totally different feeling from CF. It has the feeling that you are at the arcade. If you play on CF, you will have mushy feeling on arrows. However, if you play on blueshark, you can feel that it actually rebound instead of mushing in like the CF. According to my freinds, CF sensativity is not as good as before.
4. Sturucture: (Blueshark > CobaltFlux) :
When I play CF on carpet, I could actually feel that the pad is bending and move around little bit. if you play on hardwood floor, CF is also sturdy too. When I play blueshark on both carpet and hard floor, I could not tell the difference much. It is solid. Blueshark pad does not move at all because it weighs significantly more. so If you plan to buy a CF and play on carpet, you need another Woodbase under the CF which will cost you about $45.00 from Home Depot.
5. Price:
Blueshark regular price is $349.95. Now it is $299.95
CobaltFlux is $299.99 + $45 for 3/4 inch plywood base for carpet user
If you have enough money for a Cobalt Flux you're better off buying either a BlueShark now . If you can afford the BlueShark is clearly the best choice.
SAVE Money for SuperNova and blueshark metal pad.
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zombiejesus9001
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| 18. Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| maki2sang wrote: |
SAVE Money for SuperNova and blueshark metal pad. |
or save up for itg2 ps2 and blue shark 
good review u got there sounds like u know what your talkin about
only 2 things i really dont like about the blueshark when i played on it was A i wish they sold replacement panels that were the same thickness because those blue arrows are kinda ugly i wish they sold the itg2 dedicab arrows or the ddr pad arrows
other thing i didnt like was the bar on it was pretty flimsy but im sure u can makeshift a bar so thats not much of a problem |
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DarkCore
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| 19. Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm already planning on buying In The Groove 2 and DDR: SuperNOVA when they come out. I'll buy SuperNOVA, and get my mom to buy ITG 2.
If I bought the Blueshark metal pad with the bar, could I buy the bar support (pictured below) to make the bar a little more stable? That's the main reason that's holding me back from buying the Blueshark pad; I don't want to have the bar wobbling all over the place when it's in use. (I use the bar in almost every song.
Bar Support:
Another question, zombiejesus9001 made a good point. The arrows could be improved. If I wanted, would it be possible to change the decals on it, like on a Flux? I'd like to make it look like an arcade pad. I honestly think the TX-2000 is probably the best looking pad in my opinion. (Watch me be flamed now.  )
Does anyone know when Mymybox is going to get any Blueshark metal pads?
(With bars)
I've pretty much made up my mind, and I am going to get Blueshark with the bar. |
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