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0. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Best way to train stamina? Reply with quote

What is the quickest, most effective way for training stamina.
And also, what is the easiest way to get used to playing with the bar...with the bar, crossovers are hard for me. Even the beginning of destiny is harder with the bar...
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1. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to train stamina? Reply with quote

Limitin Kumiru wrote:
What is the quickest, most effective way for training stamina.


play no more often than every three days or so. maybe every other day if you really want to, but dont keep that up for that long. you can work up to playing more often though.

eat well. drink water.

dont just play songs you cant pass, or ones that you can easily do. you want to sit near the edge of your limit. if you just recently passed hardcore of the north, for instance, youll want to play that, tell, and other songs that you can DO, but are still tiring.

and dont just play sets of them. work up to it. a set of a 9, 10, then 12 is much more effective than three 12s. or three 9s for that matter.

i also reccomend edits. they dont have to be ridiculously hard, but sightreading an 11 or two is slightly more beneficial than playing a few 11s you already know. if you play them right that is. normally, people get into a rhythm of a chart, and know where things are, what they have to conserve for. but when you never really know whats coming next, you should play a little more focused, and its more draining to play that way as well. draining in a good way.

i have more. maybe ill write a bit more later.
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just to answer, if someone who stands next to you watching you play PSMO but you get a D on it, versus somebody who understands perfect attacking and stuff, will think you suck. A player is considered good in my opinion when a player of a higher level comments about you or see's you triple A a song. Or if somebody looks up to you. Hope it clarifies.

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2. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to train stamina? Reply with quote

IHYD.DukAmok wrote:

eat well. drink water.


i'd like to put some extra emphasis on this.

i started performing much better when i figured this out.
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3. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

July still tires me out, if I pass it. I have like a 25% pass rate on that song...
utopia doesnt tire me out...neither does charlene
I need stamina for like Delirium and !...! tires me out a lot for some reason...
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4. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dukamok wrote:
All the right stuff


Way to tell me this when i asked you how to get better at hard songs frown.gif haha

Oh, being productive to the thread. uh, dont play on the outside of the sensors like everybody at my arcade does and complain about not being able to pass (insert song here).
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5. PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dukamok wrote:
All the right stuff


Way to tell me this when i asked you how to get better at hard songs frown.gif haha


actually around that time a bunch of people started asking me

i didnt really have answers, so i started paying more attention to what i actually did so i could answer scrubs like you =)
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just to answer, if someone who stands next to you watching you play PSMO but you get a D on it, versus somebody who understands perfect attacking and stuff, will think you suck. A player is considered good in my opinion when a player of a higher level comments about you or see's you triple A a song. Or if somebody looks up to you. Hope it clarifies.

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6. PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to train stamina? Reply with quote

IHYD.DukAmok wrote:

drink water.


I'm going to re-emphasize this as far as arrowsmashing in general goes. I've been dehydrated to the point of needing fluid through an IV (It was unrelated to DDR/ITG), and it was honestly one of the scariest experiences of my life. For the love of Christ, keep yourself hydrated.
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7. PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again about the water.

Don't go choosing an energry drink or a pop over water.
Water will help you more than any Monster or crap like that.

Water, water, water, water.
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Unless you had two hours of sleep before a tournament, then its always good to use a monster, and then get stupid pad errors three fucking times in a row on D-Code. I love playing Dukamok in tournaments E1.gif
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9. PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ankle weights. Don't run with them though, I hear that will mess up ur knees.

Water, but not a huge amount just before you play. About an hour before, I'd say about 2 glasses. Then just good sips before rounds.

Eat breakfast too, you get your butt kicked if you don't, I'll tell ya.

Heavy (Skater) shoes helped me for a while. Play with them for about two months, then go with a lighter shoe. The new Free's seem to do well. Or just about any sprinter shoe.
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_Jew_ wrote:
Ankle weights. Don't run with them though, I hear that will mess up ur knees.

Heavy (Skater) shoes helped me for a while. Play with them for about two months, then go with a lighter shoe. The new Free's seem to do well. Or just about any sprinter shoe.


i dont agree with these sentiments

playing with ankle weights is like playing with ankle weights. its nothing like playing without them.

stamina as a quantitative amount is rather vague, whats more important in my mind is how you use that stamina. lets say player one has the "stamina level" that allows them to pass pandemonium once, and player 2 has the "stamina level" that allows them to pass it twice in a row. you would assume the second person had "better" stamina. thats as it may be during normal play, but player 1 has refined his playstyle, and has the ability to multiply that little stamina by conserving energy, and cutting his playstyle down without sacrificing score. so playing normally, player 1 could probably pass pandemonium once. but if he refines his playstyle correctly, he can pass it probably 10 times, wheras poor player 2 is stuck playing only how he knows how to play, and cant stretch the "stamina" he has any longer than those two rounds.

so what ankle weights do is force you to change the balance of your feet, it changes what it feels like. the same for shoes. it changes how you must move your feet in order to hit the panels. so yes, as an excercise in learning how to adapt your fine foot control, different shoes would probably help. but as far as raw stamina is concerned, it does almost nothing.

i reccomend working on refining playstyle more than building stamina. to build enough stamina to pass pandemonium several times in a row can take months of concerted effort and training. refining your playstyle, on the other hand, can catapult you from a failing score to a 90% practically overnight.
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just to answer, if someone who stands next to you watching you play PSMO but you get a D on it, versus somebody who understands perfect attacking and stuff, will think you suck. A player is considered good in my opinion when a player of a higher level comments about you or see's you triple A a song. Or if somebody looks up to you. Hope it clarifies.

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11. PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pandemonium is your ultimate test of stamina, but before that, though, your prerequisites are HotN (stamina), My Favourite Game (tower runs), Tell (candles), and Energizer (speed). These four songs have the skills training that you will need to beat Pandemonium.
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12. PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend sprinting for a mile every day. Until you get it under 5:00 you fail.
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