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flcl573 Trick Member
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100. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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That's a solid arguement, eh? _________________
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Iman Trick Member
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101. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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annon is not ddrmaster5 wrote: | sk.Gremio wrote: | Yes, I've never played Nova. Even if it sucked, I'd still like it better. True Fanboy. |
I hope you realize that's not a good thing. |
I do, and I don't care. _________________
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patrickphan2 Trick Member
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102. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
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itg2 is better, bloodrush is gangster. supernova is ok but i like extreme better. extreme+supernova songlist on a supernova machine will pwn itg2. but itg2 is better _________________
Tyrgannus wrote: | Synaesthesia wrote: | Thread now delivers. |
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BustAGroovey Trick Member
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103. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: |
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FLCL, God of Gods wrote: | Da Bar wrote: | sk.Gremio wrote: | I am loyal to DDR, to the bitter end. |
why? |
Because he's another DDR fanboy. |
Naaww, really? This is DDR Freak isnt it? Is it really a surprise DDR fanboys would be here? You know what...maybe it is...after all it seems like ITG has humped all over this site and the stains are permanent. Oh well..the more ITG fans..the more of a chance I can once again play DDR at the arcades without a long line...just like how it was in the late 90s and early 2000s for me. |
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Da Bar Trick Member
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Lobster Jesus Trick Member
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105. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Da Bar wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | Naaww, really? This is DDR Freak isnt it? Is it really a surprise DDR fanboys would be here? |
it's surprising that mindless fanboyism still exists in this day and age. and pretty sad really. people that like ddr better than itg simply because ddr is ddr are extremely closed minded individuals and need to broaden their horizons. |
That's not always true. One of the best players in the state likes DDR over ITG, yet he came and played ITG and took the top spot for a ton of high scores with 99.xx% and stuff.
I think he has the highest score on Vertex^2 also, with an 88.xx% or so.
But to the point where you will NEVER touch an ITG machine, song, or cs version in your life, is pretty closed minded. _________________
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Da Bar Trick Member
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DAF Trick Member
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107. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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They're two different games. Why can't people get that through their heads?
It's like debating on whether Sonic or Mario is better. They both involve running around and jumping but they're still very different in how they play. _________________
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powerplug Trick Member
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108. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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DAF!, The Lightning God wrote: | They're two different games. Why can't people get that through their heads?
It's like debating on whether Sonic or Mario is better. They both involve running around and jumping but they're still very different in how they play. |
I like DDR SuperNova better, it is fresher than ITG 2. i do miss the DDR allstar characters as well.
on the Sonic and Mario debate,it is also like a competition between Sega and Nintendo.and in this case about the battle of the company brands.Konami and RoxorGames.It does not matter i have been a DDR fan for life.until ITG 3 comes out .....that could be a hard decision too.
in some cases,once one game is overplayed(like DDRXtreme),it's not fresh anymore.
unless resurrecting fond memories and bringing the Newness of DDR.that could very well change the story.and that is what DDR SuperNova has done!
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Tyrgannus Trick Member
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109. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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DAF!, The Lightning God wrote: | It's like debating on whether Sonic or Mario is better. They both involve running around and jumping but they're still very different in how they play. |
Sorry to be so technical, but a better comparison would be Crash Bandicoot and Mario.
Mario and Sonic were originally 2-d scrollers (And still are in my mind, ah the good ol' days). Sonic had rings, Mario had coins, and you really didn't have all that much you could do, essentially run and jump.
I find it better to compare Mario with Crash Bandicoot. Mario is DDR. It's the original platform game, and the one that everyone knows and loves right? Well, years after Mario came out, it when on a haitus of making actual platform games and started making stuff like Mario Tennis (Kind of like how Konami took a haitus from AC and focused on CS for a while). Crash Bandicoot came in around this time period and, while doing fairly well in sales, never did and never will reach the popularity of Mario, similar to ITG and DDR.
What does Crash have though that Mario doesn't? Well, you can spin, body slam, slide.........you can do a few more cool stuff, similar to mines, rolls, and hands. Yes, they're both platform games, but Mario will always be more popular because it is more original (Yet it is rather lacking in actual platform games now), and Crash will never be as popular because it is looked upon as a spinoff (Oh wait, haven't we heard this about ITG?)
Yeah, those are my 2 cents I guess. I thought my Coke and Pepsi analogy on the Itg3 and itg2 cs announcement was better, but I thought this was decently accurate as well. _________________
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flcl573 Trick Member
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110. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Crash was definitely not as popular as Mario was.
Mario > Sonic for me, because the gameplay is more solid and technical, and Super Mario World (Sonic 1's competition) was great. _________________
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BustAGroovey Trick Member
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111. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Da Bar wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | Naaww, really? This is DDR Freak isnt it? Is it really a surprise DDR fanboys would be here? |
it's surprising that mindless fanboyism still exists in this day and age. and pretty sad really. people that like ddr better than itg simply because ddr is ddr are extremely closed minded individuals and need to broaden their horizons. |
But aren't there ITG players that are the same way except the other way around? I've played a good deal of both of them. It just so happens DDR is just more appealing to me. I think I know why...
Believe it or not, DDR was not my entry to music games...the Bust A Move/Groove series was. This is a game focused on Japanesey music and the characters in the game actually affected gameplay and were just as important as the songs in the games themselves. After Dance Summit, there hasnt been a Bust A Move/Groove game to come out in years, maybe because of Enix's combination with Square but, I'll get to the point....
DDR has the japanese taste of music that I love and as well as dancing characters in most of their games. While the characters in the game dont really do anything and are preceived as pointless compared to the Bust A Move/Groove characters, DDR is the only game that comes the closest to filling the void for me. Since there will probably never be another Bust A Move game, this is all I can really work with. |
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Sweet Potato Trick Member
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112. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Okay everyone. Listen up. I played both ITG2 and SuperNOVA and I am a very unbiased person. I played one set of songs on each. They were both very impressive in my eyes. I can play the extremely hard songs like 11s but I actually enjoy playing 8s and 9s more. So here is my opinion.
Most of you would think that ITG is only good for the very hard songs but I actually found the easier songs I played to be a blast. I don't quite remember the names because I don't know anything about ITG (I think one song was called Peaches or something). But the cabinet I played on was sweet (although a little sticky) and it was hard to hear the game due to a radio blasting pop music. Through all this I still found the game to be super duper. A much needed improvement to the ITG game I own for ps2.
On the other hand SuperNOVA was also pretty fun but the fun was restricted by an additional 20 greats per song. Pretty much my entire set was offsync. But when the patch comes out to fix this it shouldn't be a problem anymore. Flowers was an amazing song and its sync was fine. Konami, just fix the sync and give us the unlock codes for a bunch of higher difficulty songs and you could end up very nice. Chop chop.
Overall, I think ITG2 takes the cake. Just by a tiny bit. Though people will complain that the charts suck, the ones I played were quite entertaining. Though I don't like songs that are hard for the sake of hard. I want to get "in the groove" not "in the hospital" so ITG2 still is a good game for the not-so-competitive player.
SuperNOVA falls a tiny bit behind due to sync errors and not too many interesting 10s. Get the patch and get the unlocks and this will probably be right up there with ITG2.
I hope some of you appreciate my opinion and don't just go "psh I still think SN blows. Roxor for life!" Fanboyism gets nobody anywhere. Anyone who is pure DDR or pure ITG should give the other a chance. Oh and for PIU, I have yet to play on a PIU machine or home version so I will not give an opinion on that. It's probably just another good dancing game. |
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Tyrgannus Trick Member
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113. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that was actually mature. Thanks man (Note:, that wasn't sarcasm)
I play DDR and ITG. ITG more at home than DDR, and DDR more in the arcades (Probably because there aren't as many ITG machines if truth be told.)
You know what? I don't think I'll stop playing DDR anytime soon, especially Extreme. It's just a lot of fun, and I don't feel like I'm pushed to *** something. Props to DDR, it was got me from sucking at light to AA'ing Max300.
Ok, now that I gave DDR its props, here's my take on ITG. ITG builds off of the concept of DDR. It takes it one step further, in technique and difficulty. You don't have to pick songs with hands, mines, or rolls if you don't like the new techniques, but it gives it more variety that they're there, and likewise you don't have to play 11s, 12s, and 13s if you think they're just stupid hard, but it provides a challenge to the masterful who indeed can do them consistantly.
Now, because Mr. God brought it up (LOl on the name, are we narsicistic or something?), I'll talk about PIU. PIU has a fairly annoying interface that takes a few sets to truly get used to, but once you do, you will experience some of the most creative stepcharts around, and also some of the most BS. PIU is the hardest arrowsmash game, so I don't know why ITG always gets laughed at for being stupid hard when PIU exists. The problem many people find with the game is not getting used to the 5-panel layout. I can't help you with that, some people do, some people don't, but don't bash the game because you can't get used to 5-panel.
So, we have 3 good dance game series. Unfortunately for DDR it came out with SN, and unfortunately for SN, it came out at a time of reawakening in the dance community, probably due in part to ITG. This was a problem because people focus on score a lot now, and well, SN is offsync as hell. Sure, it will probably be fixed or at least vastly improved, but for now it is a chore to play the game due to the streams of greats as opposed to just having a good time.
Who wins in music selection? DDR. It has so many songs it's not funny
Who wins in difficulty? PIU, though stuff like LAIDZ 2 is just dumb kinda
Who wins in scoring system? ITG without a doubt
Who wins in stepcharts? Pure opinion
Who wins in interesting music? Pure opinion?
Which is the most fun? Pure opinion
I find ITG the hardest, though I actually do not consider myself a RoxoR fanboy. If I ever complain about DDR, I complain about SN, and that's because I love Extreme so much it was a disappointment.
End of rambling, sorry _________________
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114. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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DAF!, The Lightning God wrote: | They're two different games. Why can't people get that through their heads?
It's like debating on whether Sonic or Mario is better. They both involve running around and jumping but they're still very different in how they play. |
Sonic runs to the right more. A lot more. It's almost like half the time the game's playing itself.
Mario jumps more. A lot more. It's almost like half the time you don't even need the racoon suit.
Of course, neither of these are valid arguments and both have nothing to do with the thread, so I'll just shut up now. _________________
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115. Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but that's been there for a while and there's not even a hint of it comming out in the near future.
And why is everyone hating ddr SN. It's gonna be awsome! I've haven't played it yet, but I just know I'm gonna love Innocence of Silence, Fascination Maxx, Healing d vision, Chaos, and Xepher. Everyone is underrating it. I mean F Maxx oni is gonna be a huge challenge
I'm getting ddr sn the instant it's released on september 26th _________________
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117. Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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attention Black Sakura Black:
Get the fuck out of Illinois. |
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