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0.  Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: Legal Issue (good lord...) |
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I had a text conversation with Naoki Maeda aka De-sire/De-strad etc about his myspace page. He isn't allowed to post any of his music on myspace because it's owned by Konami even though he made it. I asked him what he thought about me making a page with a couple of his songs embedded in it using a free file hosting service. The page would give full credit to the artist and to Konami and would in no way allow users to download the music, only listen.
Spreading the glory of Mr. De-sire OR opening up one major legal issue can of worms? Advice please! |
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DefaultGen
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| 1. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that similar to having a website stream bootleg movies rather than offering download links to them?
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Immediate
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| 2. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know! I was just asking!
I've been told that this sort of thing goes on all time, but I wanted to ask a group of people who I at first believed would have a little more knowledge on the subject and a little less smart remarks.
It's no different than websites (that are totally legal) that allow people to post their own personal playlists of music for all to listen to. |
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| 3. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Immediate wrote: | I dont know! I was just asking!
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He was just commenting!
If I had a Myspace, I'd do it. I don't give a crap what other people would say. The worst they can do is remove the links to the music streams. I think... |
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Immediate
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| 4. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, what I had planned on doing is completely harmless, but companies can get crazy stupid with their property. I just wanted to let people preview the music. But before they attack me (if they indeed would) they would need to attack the thousands upon thousands of piraters as well. |
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Immediate
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| 5. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| By the way peoples, in speaking with De-sire (his myspace says this as well) he is having a music contest for anyone who wishes to enter. Since he cannot post his own music he is putting up music created by the fans and judging them. I'm not sure if there is a prize or not but I guess being recognized by the man as the best is pretty good. |
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| 6. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Does nobody else find errors in this thread? |
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| 7. Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Reenee wrote: | | Does nobody else find errors in this thread? |
O RLY?
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| 8. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| MySweetReVenGe wrote: | | Reenee wrote: | | Does nobody else find errors in this thread? |
O RLY? |
YA RLY!
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| 9. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| annon is not ddrmaster5 wrote: | | MySweetReVenGe wrote: | | Reenee wrote: | | Does nobody else find errors in this thread? |
O RLY? |
YA RLY!
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YA RLY |
NO WAI!
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B4ULoveShine
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| 10. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Reenee wrote: | | Does nobody else find errors in this thread? |
1. Naoki doesn't speak in English, let alone write.
2. He wants to keep a low profile; his having a MySpace account is contrary to this.
Guys, it's your turn to add.
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The Wise Fool
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| 12. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Plus, his stuff under DE-SIRE is definitely not his best work, nor his only work. |
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| 13. Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Immediate wrote: | | It's no different than websites (that are totally legal) that allow people to post their own personal playlists of music for all to listen to. |
No, what those sites are doing is posting HTML playlists of what they listen to. You can't just start listening to what they're playing.
The sites that *do* stream the music are either doing it legally with license from the copyright holders, or they're doing it illegally. It's pretty much black and white.
It doesn't matter if what you're doing is being nice or helpful to the community. Ultimately, Konami has the copyrights, so they get to say what happens and what doesn't happen, and you don't.
And last but not least, if you're going to get legal advice from the Internet, at least get it on Slashdot. Taking legal advice from members of DDR Freak is like going on a fishing trip in Libya.
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Pop'n Usagi!
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| 15. Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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TaQ never does anything with his Myspace 
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| 16. Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Legal Issue (good lord...) |
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| Immediate wrote: | | I had a text conversation with Naoki Maeda |
IT'S A TRAP. 
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| 17. Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Internet + MySpace = someone pretending to be someone they are not!
I've seen dozens of artist on myspace, just doing a simple search and come up with resuls showing at least 3 if not more different account. Most without pictures, others with pictures off of covers of magazine or something they posed for.
A few do say "I'm a fan" or "This is a fan" or something along those lines. I don't doubt that some artist out there do have mypace....but for all sorts of legal issues, I'm sure they're not going to open up and say "Hi, I'm _____ the famous artist from ____ ".
| Cutriss wrote: | | And last but not least, if you're going to get legal advice from the Internet, at least get it on Slashdot. Taking legal advice from members of DDR Freak is like going on a fishing trip in Libya. |
Unless someone on here has a law degree.....asking someone is like opening a can of worms only to find Pandora's box stuffed inside. |
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Flazh
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| 18. Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Legal Issue (good lord...) |
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| Immediate wrote: | | I had a text conversation with Naoki Maeda aka De-sire/De-strad etc about his myspace page. |
Yeah, you know, cause Japanese artists use blogs from other countries that aren't used at all in Japan. It would have been plausable in the slightest if you had said Gree or Mixi or any Japanese blog. I think someone just got a hefty dose of the internet...
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| 19. Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I know of Dave Grohl's personal Myspace and I know for a fact it isn't fake, so why is it so far fetched that Naoki has a Myspace
Myspace is more popular than I think you guys realize
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