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Irish.MTA (Retired?)
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160.  Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | John Locke wrote: | | Calculused Based Statistics |
Lol.
But what if there's someone in the world that doesn't post scores anywhere, and doesn't enter tournaments, but has world records on every song in the game. I don't see how the formula could take them into effect.
And for players such as myself that don't enter tournaments fairly often, but perform fairly well in tournament situations when I do enter them.
I don't see how a formula could give a "correct" answer to an otherwise subjective question. |
Gotta keep that low profile, Jason. Otherwise you couldn't get all the fanboys off your e-peen. And you don't know where they've been.
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Da Bar
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J. S. Mill
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| 162. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | But what if there's someone in the world that doesn't post scores anywhere, and doesn't enter tournaments, but has world records on every song in the game. I don't see how the formula could take them into effect. |
Right, it can't. The reasoning is that such a player would be worse in a tournament setting then Mike because his inexperience would hurt him. I accept this as a limit to the formula, and in the essay I only talk about the best known player in the world. Good point.
| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | And for players such as myself that don't enter tournaments fairly often, but perform fairly well in tournament situations when I do enter them. |
It's not tournament performance which is used in the formula's. It's a statistic called range factor. Pretty much the only thing I use tournament performance for is to see how close to your best you get in a tournament setting.
| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | I don't see how a formula could give a "correct" answer to an otherwise subjective question. |
Did Sabremetrics give a correct answer to the question: Who is the best baseball player (in the MLB)? Was that a subjective question beforehand?
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| 163. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Da Bar wrote: | | DamienKC wrote: | | Take a look @ his none 12/13 scores...see them? They're REALLY bad. Those scores, reguardless if he played anymore, would still not be very good today. Kevin's a machine, but only at hard stuff. You've got to be rounded, especially for tournaments. =( |
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i was recently at a ddr tourny Kevin was in. every round he'd pick lom or psmo and win, but on a couple occasions, his opponent would beat him or almost so on a random 7 or 8. |
Not to sound dumb... but dont you basically need to AAA every single 7and 8 difficulty song almost consistently to win a "real" ddr tournament now? Doesn't suprise me that some rounds were close on 7s and 8's |
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mb41186
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| 164. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| DamienKC wrote: | | mb41186 wrote: | is there a reason why keving doesn't play as much anymore??? WHHYY!!!!
he could be #1 if he wanted to be... |
And this is why you're still on DDR Freak
Take a look @ his none 12/13 scores...see them? They're REALLY bad. Those scores, reguardless if he played anymore, would still not be very good today. Kevin's a machine, but only at hard stuff. You've got to be rounded, especially for tournaments. =( |
hmm.. well if you say it that way.. your right.. dam.. im such an idiot.. oh wellz...
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mb41186
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| 165. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Da Bar wrote: | | DamienKC wrote: | | Take a look @ his none 12/13 scores...see them? They're REALLY bad. Those scores, reguardless if he played anymore, would still not be very good today. Kevin's a machine, but only at hard stuff. You've got to be rounded, especially for tournaments. =( |
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i was recently at a ddr tourny Kevin was in. every round he'd pick lom or psmo and win, but on a couple occasions, his opponent would beat him or almost so on a random 7 or 8. |
thats kind of odd.. considering it was a tournament.. you know you can't pick the same set of songs... obviously he won that tourney... not from just picking 10footers... I did hear however he looked out with TLOM at the end....
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JasonTheGreater
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| 166. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| John Locke wrote: | | JasonTheGreater wrote: | | I don't see how a formula could give a "correct" answer to an otherwise subjective question. |
Did Sabremetrics give a correct answer to the question: Who is the best baseball player (in the MLB)? Was that a subjective question beforehand? |
I honestly can't answer that question because I don't follow baseball or Sabremetrics, but I'm guessing the answer you're looking for is "yes".
That point aside, it's much easier to gauge who the best baseball player is because MLB is a national organization, therefore statistical data is available for every player in the league. However, with ITG, since there's no professional organization, the tournament records and scores for every individual ITG player aren't readily available as they are with baseball.
From what I read about what you posted about Sabremetrics, it seem like it can give an answer within a relatively high confidence interval of who the best ITG player is, but it could never be 100% accurate unless comprehensive data was composed of every ITG player worldwide.
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J. S. Mill
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| 167. Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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You make a fair point and I accept this; I am happy to say that I can calculate only the best known player.
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damienkc
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| 168. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Hey Jason you joined DDR Freak on my birthday.
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Tyrgannus
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| 169. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| John Locke wrote: | | You make a fair point and I accept this; I am happy to say that I can calculate only the best known player. |
I have always thought that it is possible that the best person in the world doesn't post scores, movies, or anything and thus slips under the radar. For all you know, 94.55 ISN'T the world record on Vertex2, that is just the probable and verified record. Joe McNobody might have broken 95 without almost anyone knowing.
I understand the improbability of this, but I also recognize the slight possibility. In other things, such as music, this is more common place. I know multiple kids who can probably solo better than anyone in Iron Maiden while drunk, and no, that is not an exaggeration.
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JasonTheGreater
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| 170. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| DamienKC wrote: | | Hey Jason you joined DDR Freak on my birthday. |
oh, sorry
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mb41186
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| 171. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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you guys are hilarious.. anywayz... I didn't think this topic/thread would go to so many pages.. I knew it would get some hate.. spam, and whatnot... but im surprised its still up.... thank you whoever posted =P..
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damienkc
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| 172. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | DamienKC wrote: | | Hey Jason you joined DDR Freak on my birthday. |
oh, sorry |
No it's cool, I was at a wedding all day for my birthday last year. =(
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mb41186
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| 173. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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man a lot of you are so young.. its just amazing how good you all are...
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JLG
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| 174. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Did you know I'm the best player in TX,
Got a AAA on psmo in light mode
It took me 50 trys... One day I went to the arcade and woot!
All perfects baby!! First one in the world to AAA psmo in light mode.
It takes some major skill and I'm going to video tape it next time and put it on youtube to show my greatness.
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mb41186
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| 175. Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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hmm.. does AAAing anything on light mode actually count for anything?
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Regulator10886
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| 176. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| JLG! wrote: | Did you know I'm the best player in TX,
Got a AAA on psmo in light mode
It took me 50 trys... One day I went to the arcade and woot!
All perfects baby!! First one in the world to AAA psmo in light mode.
It takes some major skill and I'm going to video tape it next time and put it on youtube to show my greatness. |
there is no psmo light... just psm light |
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mb41186
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| 177. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Hey well you know how there was a tournament at some bowling alley and Kevbo and LilQ competed against eachother? who was the better player? i'v just seen videos and kevbo won in most of the videos...
but that doesn't mean that lilq lost to him in the tourney.. so who won?
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Regulator10886
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| 178. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| mb41186 wrote: | Hey well you know how there was a tournament at some bowling alley and Kevbo and LilQ competed against eachother? who was the better player? i'v just seen videos and kevbo won in most of the videos...
but that doesn't mean that lilq lost to him in the tourney.. so who won? |
its a skating park in ohio. and kevin won that time i think |
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mb41186
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| 179. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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did kevin luck out? or did he actually give lilq a run for his money.. cuz I hear all this crap saying that kevbo isn't so great.. but Lilq is the NAT05 champion.. so doesn't kevin beating him mean anything?
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