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Asymptote
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20.  Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Likewise, i'll say that difficulty ratings do and should cater to the people closer to the passing level of the song, rather than the people who are already pros at the game, can pass the songs without much problem, and their takes on how hard it is for them. In that respect, I think LilQ made a wise decision in that it shouldn't have been a 13.
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Vash573
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| 21. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Why both songs deserve the rating:
Summer ~Speedy Mix~: Crazy 8th note jumps near the end of the song, and the death runs.
Bloodrush: The slowdown, and the crossovers at 16th/32nd note runs.
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Vash573
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| 22. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ThePandemonium wrote: | | Blood Rush should stay and so should Summer. Bloodrush I was able to do at 1x with little problems. I BSed my way though the slowdown and passed it first try. SUmmer on the other hand, I couldnt do because of the speed and lenth of the death run. |
Be sure you can call it by its correct name before you try to pull wool over our eyes, by the way. Bloodrush. One word. Like....Madonna.
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| 23. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Crossovers are extremely gay and I'll probably pass Pande and Summer before Bloodrush. 13 plz |
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Kaku
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| 24. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| #Infinity wrote: | | Kaku, difficulty ratings have nothing to do with how hard a song is to score (L'amour, anyone?). |
This isn't DDR. Lipstick Kiss for example is a 9 just because it's hard to score.
And yeah, even though it might have nothing to do about how hard it is to score I also did state that it took me 8 tries to pass Bloodrush vs Summer's 1.
One really good person shouldn't have the final say in how hard a song is. That one good person might be really really good at crossovers, or really good at 11/12+ songs, or really good at 100%'ing 7's and 8's. You already said that difficulty ratings should cater to those who are closer to the passing level of a song then you said that LilQ made a good decision to make it a 12. Don't tell me he's at the level of just passing the song. =\
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#Infinity
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| 25. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Kakuâ wrote: | | #Infinity wrote: | | Kaku, difficulty ratings have nothing to do with how hard a song is to score (L'amour, anyone?). |
This isn't DDR. Lipstick Kiss for example is a 9 just because it's hard to score.
And yeah, even though it might have nothing to do about how hard it is to score I also did state that it took me 8 tries to pass Bloodrush vs Summer's 1. |
Lipstick Kiss is a 9 because it's harder to pass than easier 9's such as No Princess and Little Kitty Mine. If it's hard to score, why isn't it a 10? And why isn't Roxor planning to upgrade VerTex^2 to a 14 when its average score on groovestats is in the 70's (if its horribly low top score isn't enough to make to agree)? Not that I think it's an easy 13 to pass, but the song starts off pretty simple before getting to the huge minefields and hard-to-read ending, so 13 is enough.
You must have a lot of footspeed to have passed Summer ~Speedy Mix~ on try one. Sure, Bloodrush's slowdown's run is rather hard to read, but its patterns don't even get hard until near the end of it. While you might need to get used to such an unusual slowdown, it's still overall an easier song to pass from my perspective when Summer ~Speedy Mix~ demands a ton of stamina and footspeed to make it through the runs and complicated jumps.
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| 26. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well, stamina isn't the best argument to keep Summer at a 13. I find HotN MUCH more tiring with Summer....heck, Bloodrush is just as tiring if not just a little bit more because of the footwork.
But yeah, read my previous post here. I believe both songs such keep their ratings.
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| AA Bob wrote: | | Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9. |
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Asymptote
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| 27. Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Kakuâ wrote: | | then you said that LilQ made a good decision to make it a 12. Don't tell me he's at the level of just passing the song. =\ |
I said he made a WISE decision. What I mean by that is that he was probably thinking about lesser skilled players as well.... I'm certain that he probably finds BR harder than Summer, as do many players near his level, but he said it should be a 12. If he was thinking like you were, it would be a 13.... but not everyone is around that level yet.
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GotACoolName
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| 28. Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| Kakuâ wrote: | | #Infinity wrote: | | Kaku, difficulty ratings have nothing to do with how hard a song is to score (L'amour, anyone?). |
This isn't DDR. Lipstick Kiss for example is a 9 just because it's hard to score. |
No, it's because RoXoR wants all Expert charts to be a difficulty of 9 or higher. Songs like Birdie, Little Kitty Mine, Why Me, etc., all are only 9s because RoXoR wants all Expert charts to be 9+, even though the ones I listed are probably closer to 8s than 9s.
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Asymptote
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| 29. Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Or it could be because it has parts that are just generally trickier than anything you'd find in any 8, like wierd gallops and clusters while turning, or odd spasms of purple notes that are not readily apparent as to how they go, and strange fills
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 30. Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Should Bloodrush have been a 13? |
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Nope. I passed it first try. I mean it's tiring, but still not quite 13 worthy... but it is close
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Vash573
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| 31. Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Should Bloodrush have been a 13? |
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| Marquistadorous wrote: | | Nope. I passed it first try. I mean it's tiring, but still not quite 13 worthy... but it is close |
No pics, no clicks.
Oh wait, that didn't wor...
Oh well, my point still stands; prove it.
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| 32. Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I strongly believe that Bloodrush should be a 13. I passed Summer two months ago. As for Bloodrush, I've played it MULTIPLE times and still can't seems to pass it. The amazingly fast crossovers and confusing slowdown still get me each and every time. Summer is far from being a twelve (which most I can pass with ease), so I don't think Summer should be removed from its 13 status. Delirium and HOTN seem like cake compared to Bloodrush, so in ItG3 I hope RoXoR bumps Bloodrush to another 13. Bloodrush is significantly harder in my opinion.
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Vash573
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| 33. Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with the slowdown is the 24ths don't start on the downbeat, and that throws me off every time. Also crossovers = overkill on my feet.
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 35. Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Should Bloodrush have been a 13? |
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| Vash573 wrote: | | Marquistadorous wrote: | | Nope. I passed it first try. I mean it's tiring, but still not quite 13 worthy... but it is close |
No pics, no clicks.
Oh wait, that didn't wor...
Oh well, my point still stands; prove it. |
I didn't take a pic of it, your just gonna have to belive me. I mean is it really that hard to believe?... no. It's not like I got a good score on it. I dont even remember what I got, I was just glad I passed it. I probably got like a 70% on it or something
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GotACoolName
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| 36. Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Should Bloodrush have been a 13? |
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| Vash573 wrote: | | Marquistadorous wrote: | | Nope. I passed it first try. I mean it's tiring, but still not quite 13 worthy... but it is close |
No pics, no clicks.
Oh wait, that didn't wor...
Oh well, my point still stands; prove it. |
Not everyone is able to take pics. Besides, what's so hard about believing what someone says?
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cody change your username
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| 39. Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyrgannus wrote: | Well, stamina isn't the best argument to keep Summer at a 13. I find HotN MUCH more tiring with Summer....heck, Bloodrush is just as tiring if not just a little bit more because of the footwork.
But yeah, read my previous post here. I believe both songs such keep their ratings. |
I couldn't disagree more, but you are entitled to your own opinion, so I won't go about challenging it and such.
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