CF's-Are they really worth it?

Resolute · Trick Member Joined: 30 May 2005

Okay, i need a new pad. actually, i NEED a new pad. Im thinking about geting a Flux but are they really TeH rox0rz? I mean, its alot of money, or could i get the same quality with a ninja. ( i have SM if that matters)
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katiidx · Basic Member Joined: 07 May 2006

CFs are the best stock pads on the market.

You can get equal quality with a modded TX pad or maybe an Afterburner, but it's a risky procedure (replacing the tinfoil sensors with sheet metal).

0rion · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject:

If you're used to the arcade pads, I'd get the arcade pad mod kit for it. Otherwise, it's really easy to get lost on it.
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irvineking1980 · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:

I think BlueShark metal pad GXG is alot better than CF pad.

CF is contact switch base and BlueShark GXG is based on real arcade foot sensor .

CF has 3mm Thick plastic arrow.
BlueShark GXG has 12mm thick plasic arrows.

CF is 1 inch and blueshark GXG is 2inch.

if you play on CF pad, you can not have the same feeling at arcade. However, if you play on blueshark GXG pad, you can have the same feeling arcade pad. so If I were you, I would wait until the blueshark to be in stock. it is really worth it.

CF pad still move around when you play, but blueshark metal pad dose not move at all.

you make a decision!

Edible Bondage Tape · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: Kerri

12 mil thick plastic is excessive i belive
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NESCartFanatic · Trick Member Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL

Yes it's worth it, from someone who waited to buy a flux. When I finally got it, I wanted to kick myself for not buying one sooner :-)
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cornchipz · Trick Member Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Location: Stanwood, IA

Here's what I think in general think. You will spend roughly 400 dollars on a CF, if you want the arcade mod kit, need it shipped too you, and have to get a USB converter. You're probibly better off, building your own pad, or settling for something a little bit lesser quality then the CF. The CF might be "zOMG TEH PWNAGE", but even some of the lesser pads really aren't that bad, but I strongly recomend modding them if they have the foil contact sheets, so you don't wreck them.

DevilJin 01 · Basic Member Joined: 06 Jul 2004

Yeah, I used to have a soft BNS pad that broke on me after 6 months (luckily it was only 50 bucks as opposed to the 100 bucks that people paid for those crap buttocks RO pads at the game stores).

So I decided that when I saw the CobaltFlux that that was no doubt what I was eventually going to get. I eventually wanted to become a serious DDR player and I saw from the videos that the CF was truly a pad that would last a long time and was worth the investment. I got it a few months ago and am extremely happy with it. Just as responsive as the arcade and doesn't move halfway across the room after a difficult song like the soft pads do. It still does move a little bit on carpet but if you can put it in front of something large like a couch or sofa...you can keep it from moving. I haven't used it in over a month (been playing too many fighting games lately) but I look forward to getting back into it soon so I can get back into shape.

Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

yes
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nokhoi · Trick Member Joined: 20 Aug 2005

If you're still deciding, keep in mind that BlueSharks, if I'm not mistaken, are very new pads. No one really knows how they'll stand the test of time. CFs on the other hand have been proven to last for years.

Also, in response to some previous arguments:

Just because the Cobalt is thinner, doesn't mean its not as good. Cobalts panels are made out of Lexan, so they won't ever shatter, there's no need for them to be thicker.

The arcade mod kit can give you a true arcade experience if you want it to be authentic as possible.

A CF still won't move enough while playing to actually be all that much of an issue, and besides, its recommended you make a base mod of some kind. If you make a base mod, you can add your own bar too, and make a sexy dance platform that'll look far sexier than any stock pad. =P

Maybe I'm just a CF fanboy. Oh well.

Happy decision making

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-Scorpion- · Trick Member Joined: 16 Feb 2005

I really don't think that modding a TX is a "risky procedure", you could even do that much with two left hands. Besides, aren't the new TX'es arrows made of metal so that they don't need to be modded in the first place?
I played on a CF before and I don't like the feeling at all. It's nowhere near the arcade experience, it's horrible without an arcade mod, and it's hopelessly overpriced. Of course the CF would never break down because of its simple structure.
If you just know how to build a little bit, build yourself a homepad and imitate CF's contact method (two sheet metals a few mm apart). That's all the CF really is!

MadFlava · Trick Member Joined: 21 Feb 2006

If you're going to use it on a PS2 then yea, it's the pad to get.

If you're going to use it for Stepmania or an Xbox then it's a crap shoot. The CF control box has about a zillion firmware revisions out there and so far Ive only stumbled on one revision that works with the RO adapters.

The Intrex adapter seems to be a little more consistent for the Xbox but I do have one control box here that will not work with that either.. very old firmware revision tho.

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-Scorpion- · Trick Member Joined: 16 Feb 2005

Oh, sorry katiidx, I thought this was a discussion about the CF and not a thread to praise it. Obviously, you have a problem with argumentation.
Yes you're right, I just saw that the new TX'es still have foil under them. However, you can still mod them like you can do the old ones.

Wakka Lakka · Trick Member Joined: 12 Mar 2005

No, neither the CF nor the GXG is worth the price they are charging. Considering the control box issues and a plethora of 'mandatory' mods for both pads, they should not be selling for what they are. However if you want the high-end pad you will have to pay. I would say the pads aren't worthe the money but it is worth waiting to buy one because BNS/TX pads offer less gameplay satisfaction. I can repeatedly AAA and blackflag heavy songs with it and that was not true of the TX.

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cornchipz · Trick Member Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Location: Stanwood, IA

The problem with the CF, is the control box issues. All they have is a ps2 one. You could buy an xbox one, and a usb one, but then it costs even more money. Personally, I'm not overly keen about spending 400 bucks on a DDR mat for the arcade feeling. However, I figure that's what I'll end up having to do.