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Whats the deal with so-called ten footers?
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0. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Whats the deal with so-called ten footers? Reply with quote

Okay, for a long time, people refer to Sakura and Bagas not being "real ten footers. i think that is just weird. If Konami deemed them worthy, why say they didnt? Yes they are not as hard as the others, especially Bag, but they are still challenging. Its like saying Inger Miller (one of the fastest runners in the world) is very slow because he cannot outrun a cheetah.
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1. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Whats the deal with so-called ten footers? Reply with quote

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If Konami deemed them worthy, why say they didnt?

Nobody's arguing that they didn't rate them as 10s. They're arguing that in comparison to other 10s, they're easy to pass.

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Yes they are not as hard as the others, especially Bag

Bag is hard for anyone who cares about PA.

Mexistache wrote:
Its like saying Inger Miller (one of the fastest runners in the world) is very slow because he cannot outrun a cheetah.

That doesn't make any sense. At all.
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2. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Whats the deal with so-called ten footers? Reply with quote

yes people debate weather its a ten


Exaclty bag is easy to pass, but just with 5x and solo on.

the last part.....i think i was trippin then....
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3. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then there are songs that are blatantly not 10-worthy at all.

Like Mad Blast. And G2.
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4. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Whats the deal with so-called ten footers? Reply with quote

Mexistache wrote:
yes people debate weather its a ten


Exaclty bag is easy to pass, but just with 5x and solo on.

the last part.....i think i was trippin then....


ull find out soon that its also easy on 1x flat as well. and the last part is crossovers. Maybe thats why u r tripping
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5. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think bag should stay a 10, because it's actually hard on x1, and it's even harder to PA.

Sakura is the only song that I think shouldn't be a 10...
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6. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were to change the ratings of some 9/10 footers,

sakura would be a 9 (both single and double)
genom screams (double) would be an 8 or 9
bag would remain a 10 (too hard to read for peeps at that skill level)
daikenkai oni (double) would become a 10
hvam (double) would become a 10
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7. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gameplay forum is where we're supposed to beat this topic to death once every 12 business days.
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8. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, "Bagas" is a really hard song.
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9. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Pickels...



I belive this was on 1x flat.

This may not be the picture of 1x flat, but it is out there somewhere.
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10. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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11. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synaesthesia wrote:
The Gameplay forum is where we're supposed to beat this topic to death once every 12 business days.


No, every 3 business days!

And Sakura is a ten footer, stop complaining. The slowdowns, the fast bpm's, the crossovers that are not streams, the annoying freeze arrow and then ya gotta hit that stupid left arrow where I always screw up. Sorry.
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12. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tattoo man wrote:
Synaesthesia wrote:
The Gameplay forum is where we're supposed to beat this topic to death once every 12 business days.


No, every 3 business days!


I guess most people like to stay ahead of the game.
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13. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And then there are songs that are blatantly not 10-worthy at all.

Like Mad Blast. And G2.


IMeh, I'll agree with you on Mad Blast but G2 is defintely harder than Bag and Sakura. It's a good transition 10 which is what DDR really needs so I totally don't complain about the rating. A 10 doesn't exactly need to be as draining as MaxX Unlimited you know, you can have a 10 from technicality, odd footwork, or maybe short footspeedy sections (OH NOEZ! I just described ITG 10's!)
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14. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can have a 10 from technicality, odd footwork, or maybe short footspeedy sections (OH NOEZ! I just described ITG 10's!)

Then why isn't Xenon a 10? It's just as hard, if not harder.
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15. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tyrgannus wrote:
You can have a 10 from technicality, odd footwork, or maybe short footspeedy sections (OH NOEZ! I just described ITG 10's!)

Then why isn't Xenon a 10?

Because Xenon is damn easy once you get the rhythm. No hard turns or particularly fast bursts to be found.
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16. PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AA Bob wrote:
XOR-SYS wrote:
Tyrgannus wrote:
You can have a 10 from technicality, odd footwork, or maybe short footspeedy sections (OH NOEZ! I just described ITG 10's!)

Then why isn't Xenon a 10?

Because Xenon is damn easy once you get the rhythm. No hard turns or particularly fast bursts to be found.



Add a slow bpm and you have an easy 9 footer. PA is a little on the more difficult side. Hell, Wakka Lakka is more difficult than Xenon is.
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Xenon is a definite 9 no doubt about it.

once you play it in practice mode then go to arecade, its easy
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18. PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And Sakura is a ten footer, stop complaining. The slowdowns, the fast bpm's, the crossovers that are not streams, the annoying freeze arrow and then ya gotta hit that stupid left arrow where I always screw up. Sorry.

The slowdown arrow isnt that hard. Once I got a perfect on it 3 times in a row.
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19. PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tattoo man wrote:
Synaesthesia wrote:
The Gameplay forum is where we're supposed to beat this topic to death once every 12 business days.


No, every 3 business days!

And Sakura is a ten footer, stop complaining. The slowdowns, the fast bpm's, the crossovers that are not streams, the annoying freeze arrow and then ya gotta hit that stupid left arrow where I always screw up. Sorry.
Bad example. It's only one step at 14 BPM. It's not like you have to hit two arrows while holding the freeze.

Hey, that gives me an idea! Why not add a bunch of hands during the slow part?
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