easiest 11

Ian2K3 · Trick Member Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Location: Berlin MA

ok so ive decied to start trying to pass harder songs but i can only do like sunshine vertex and a good amount of 10s so just wondering what is the easiest 11
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Mammoth_rib · Basic Member Joined: 06 May 2006

Xuxa is a fairly easy 11. Some people say Utopia is pretty easy, too, but Xuxa is first.

And I can't forget Charlene, if you can handle a long run or two.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject:

Charlene is easy if you can read around and dodge a few mines. It was my first home pass. Robotix was my first in the arcade, but I apparently intuitively knew how to adjust myself in the middle using the judgment tick, but I've noticed that concept isn't so natural to a lot of other people.
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MAAAX_himself · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject:

Xuxa is waaaaaay easier then Charlene becasue of the mines...... But thats just me..

0rion · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Well, I personally passed Xuxa first, albeit with a terrible score (roughly 69%... it's so weird looking back on that), then Charlene, then Utopia. Most of the FAQs and guides I've read say that Utopia is the easiest, but I really don't think so, since the stream in the middle (think of it as "Delirium Lite") is somewhat tricky, but that's just my opinion.

Personally, I'd go with Charlene first. It's a great song to learn anyway in order to pick up advanced mine evasion and some counter-intuitive stepping techniques.

Since you're probably not score-obsessed right now when it comes to 11s, I'd also recommend Clockwork Genesis. The rhythms are very complicated in terms of FA, but if you just want to pass the song, you can easily fake your way through it.

Finally, if you can get through the stream at the very beginning, Destiny is a cake-walk.
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Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

Charlene is a sinch. Robotix is also pretty easy too, except for that middle section

. Yeah, Utopia is pretty easy to pass if you can get past the run, but the rest of it like the right arrow part is very hard to get down at first, but after you rape the song enough, it's very easy. Xuxa is pretty easy also, I'd say about as easy as Robotix, but not as easy as Charlene.
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Skit · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject:

Charlene first, then Utopia(I got an 85% on it). I don't really think Xuxa is that easy, I can't even pass it, even though I beat Infection already.
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Laundry · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject:

I might be crazy, but I think Utopia is a hard 11.

Anyways, I think Charlene or Xuxa. IMO, Xuxa is a hard 10.

#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

Utopia's the easiest if you can stand some offbeat notes during the chorus. The only hard part is the section with the 16th streams, and even those are easy enough to get through.

Charlene is easiest if you're good at avoiding mines. It's slower than Xuxa and Utopia, so the 16ths are easier to conquer.

If you're bad at both offbeat notes and mines, then Xuxa is the easiest.
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject:

In my opinion, Charlene is the easiest by far. I starred Charlene before I passed Xuxa. Oh well, thats just me.
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Daddead324 · Trick Member Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Location: Illinois

I think it would go from easiest to hardest in the songs that have been said in this thread.

1. Utopia

2. Charlene

3. Xuxa

4. Robotix

this is to me.
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Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

Utopia, Clockwork Genesis, and Robotix are the easiest for me. Clockwork Genesis does not have any catastrophic streams; it's just like Twilight (hard) on steroids. Robotix would have been a 10 if it wasn't for the jog steps during the speedup part (ouch).
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Ian2K3 · Trick Member Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Location: Berlin MA

well i like xuxa so when i go ill try to pass that first
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

robotix is not an 11 for those quarter notes in the middle that are unreadable. that's just a simple little gimmick. it's an 11 for the continuous bursts of 16ths, with some that require pivoting at the end.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:53 am Post subject:

In my experience, people who played a lot of DDR and very little ITG had no clue at all how to handle the middle. Rather than try to calibrate themselves to the judgment, they just started flailing around, wasting energy and getting a ton of misses, which ensured they would fail the rest of the song. So basically, if you have no common sense the middle of Robotix is hard.
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0rion · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:28 am Post subject:

I don't think it's really a common sense issue. If you've played the song with assist ticks (Stepmania), seen someone else play it, or played it with a C mod, the "trick" to the 1337 section is readily noticable. However, sight-reading it on the spot could be a bit jarring.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:12 am Post subject:

I'm saying I don't know how following the judgments (with early/late, even) could NOT be intuitive. I mean, I even TOLD people "keep a constant 1/8 rhythm back and forth, and watch the judgment for when you're going off the beat, because the arrow placement isn't perfect," and they still totally failed.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject:

I think Utopia is the easiest 11. It was the first one I've passed. Next would probably be Xuxa.
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#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

I've decided that:

- Charlene is easiest to pass.
- Utopia is easiest to generally score on.
- Xuxa is easiest to FA.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject:

Utopia has too many weird rhythms to count as easiest to score, so I won't agree with that one.

I think Utopia is the easiest to pass followed by Charlene and then Robotix and Xuxa tie for third. After that, it becomes hard to accurately say which one is easier to pass because they then start becoming more specialized and it becomes an issue of the player's strengths and weaknesses.

-90% of Utopia is a 10-footer. The only reason it made 11 in my opinion is because of the 8 measure streamy section which has easy footwork and thus easy to BS.

-Charlene is slow. It ties with the second slowest 11 and is MUCH easier to pass than The Beginning and Mythology which are the other 2 slow ones. Basic footwork, no hands. Think of it as a slightly streamy 10 with a little more mines than you're used to.

-Robotix has the gimmick that we've already discussed, so if you know about it, don't worry. Other than that, the streams are fairly short and there are enough breaks to make the song easy stamina wise, however it is a tad twisty. Xuxa ISN'T twisty, but is faster and has longer streams. That being said, there are a lot of easy sections in the song to recover your stamina and the mine placement is trivial.

If I had to argue next easiest to pass, it would be between Vertex2 (Hard) and Clockwerk Genesis, though Infection is quite simple if you are an expert mine dodger.
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