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petricore
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0. PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Controller wiring help Reply with quote

I have 2 different controllers Im going to use for my home made ddr pad. A ps1 dual shock and a mad catz "batman" dual shock psone/ps2 controller.
I took apart the batman one and noticed there was a main pcb, 2 motors, and a board for the analog sticks and a board for the L and R buttons. I tested the controller and everything worked fine so I took off the 3 other pcbs I didnt need, and now the right (or R1, or analog R) seems to be stuck on. When I plug the controller in with just the main pcb now its stuck on right. Any ideas why that would be ? I'd think that disconnecting the other pcb's wouldnt have an adverse affect. I havent taken apart the official psone one yet cause Im afraid of the same thing.
Any help would be appreciated.
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1. PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is not the answer you want, but don't use any type of controller. TRUST ME!!! I just got done with my homemade pad after trying soldering to a ps2 controller, soldering to a soft pad control box, and finally soldering to my old tx1000 control box. I just got a 15 pin connector from radio shack, soldered to the right wires to the right pins, and plugged it in to my tx1000 control box. That is the only thing that worked. For more info on what I had to deal with, read the thread titled: Marq's homemade metal pad, or what ever I calleed it E1.gif
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2. PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You right, that wasnt the answer I was looking for E10.gif
Im pretty sure I can use these with no issue once I figure them out. Im going to rip apart the ps1 controller and see if I have better luck.
I do have a couple softpads I could tear apart, but that is a last resort.
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3. PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, but don't say I didn't warn you E15.gif
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4. PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To explain this problem a little bit more:

If the arrows of your homepad are made of only plexiglas, you will encounter problems. The only solution is using a TX controlbox like Marquistadorous suggested. However, if your arrows are made fully or partially of wood, you can use whatever you want to. This is due to static charges of the plexiglas, wood functions as an isolator.
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5. PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Well I am going to have 1/8" plexi on top, but wood under that, and surrounded by wood. So I should be ok.
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6. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, normal Gamepads should do it, too.
You will probably have the same problems with your other gamepad if you disconnect the other pcbs.
If you want to store your pcb in the homepad and don't have enough room, just get a pad without analog sticks.
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7. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I took apart my regualar ps1 dual shock removed all the pcb's and dual shocks and she works like a charm E13.gif
As long as I dont have static buildup problems Im set. The controller will be concealed quite easily now, muahahaha !
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8. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on how the controller is setup. Sometimes you may need the other boards, sometimes you won't. The problem arose when you cut off the other boards. I've soldered two pads to controllers and they've worked fine.

As for the static, as long as you have wood in there especially between the panels and the controller, you should be fine. In which case, most homepad designs are mostly wood, so you'll be fine. Besides, if you buy a $10 controller and it fritzes out on you, then you haven't wasted too much money, and then you can spend the extra money to make a control box of some sort.

Just my $0.02

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9. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true.
We are actually encasing the controller in wood so its concealed biggrin.gif
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10. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Controller wiring help Reply with quote

petricore wrote:
I have 2 different controllers Im going to use for my home made ddr pad. A ps1 dual shock and a mad catz "batman" dual shock psone/ps2 controller.
I took apart the batman one and noticed there was a main pcb, 2 motors, and a board for the analog sticks and a board for the L and R buttons. I tested the controller and everything worked fine so I took off the 3 other pcbs I didnt need, and now the right (or R1, or analog R) seems to be stuck on. When I plug the controller in with just the main pcb now its stuck on right. Any ideas why that would be ? I'd think that disconnecting the other pcb's wouldnt have an adverse affect. I havent taken apart the official psone one yet cause Im afraid of the same thing.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Linc

Don't use dual-shocks. The analogue sticks screw up the axes. I had this problem myself: when you remove the sticks, it looses a signal somewhere else down the line and an about 3-4 buttons are constantly on. Instead, go with straight old PS1 original controllers. They're wiring is much more straightforward: a digital pad and a buttons pad. From there it's pretty straightforward: digital up for up, digital left for left, etc.
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11. PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't find old PS1 controllers, the other option is to leave the sticks on, just tape the board down in a position so that the sticks aren't pusing against anything, and you'll be fine. =) Cutting off the stick's board is where trouble sets in.

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