Should Hardcore Symphony be upgraded to a 12?

Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

I heard rumors that Monolith is being updated to a 12 in ITG3. Will this also be possible for Hardcore Symphony? It's extremely hard for an 11 because of the ridiculous death runs, spins, crossovers, jackhammers, and jump streams that surpass even Pandemonium. The steps are some of the hardest I have ever seen. And even if I tried, I could never stand a chance to beat it compared to Delirium.
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

meh, i don't really know. I sure can't pass it, but I still can't pass Pandemonium hard either. I usually try to be able to pass songs before I pass judgement. Monolith I don't see what the big deal is. It's a tough 11 indeed but not nearly as hard to pass.... there are no runs in it, and there are only about 2 little sections i remember that are very hard to combo, and they aren't even that step heavy, so you can flail your feet around and bs through it without having to worry about missing a ton of steps. The rest isn't that tough, just a bit of a workout, if youre bar raping it the majority isn't so bad.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject:

As bad as a reason as this sounds, there aren't enough 11's. Keep it as the "main boss" 11 and make Monolith the "mini boss". Yes, Delirium and Vertex are easier, but seriously, we NEED more 11's.
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Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

IHYD.Blake · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject:

what the fuck we need more 12s, not 11s
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sol.ch · Trick Member Joined: 02 Nov 2005

I can do all 11s and 12s, even getting an S/S- on Xuxa + Utopia, and only Bs at the 12 footers. Pandemonium on Hard and Vertex^2 I got a 74% on

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....And I can't even get halfway through Hardcore, which is why it should be a 12 in my book.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

I think that it's a difficult song and is quite difficult currently as a 11. I believe that compared to the other 12s that are on the easy side, it'd fit in well.

I think it should be "upgraded" to a 12.
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greenearth2 · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:50 am Post subject:

I say leave it an 11. Sure, it's hard, but it's not THAT hard. You just gotta get your speed improved. Here's what hands R' Us said- It has:

Ridiculous death runs- I agree, but once you get the hang of their speed and direction, they're really easy.
spins- ...What?
crossovers- There are a few crossovers, nothing too crazy.
jackhammers- Pushing an arrow 3 times in a row in a stream is NOT hard.
jump streams that surpass even Pandemonium- Huh? Pandy has jump streams? I'll admit the jumps are tough if you can't read arrows too well, i had the same thing when on 3x Hallway, so I upgraded to 4x Hallway and it's easier.

Oh and monolith should be an 11 aswell.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:05 am Post subject:

Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

Hardcore Symphong should NOT be a 12 !!!! It's not even that bad of an 11. It just has a couple fast (and very fun if I may add) runs

But Monolith on the other hand...

That's one energy-draining 11 I tell you

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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject:

The dedicated cabinet Monolith should be a 12. The boxor upgrade Monolith should not be a 12.
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MAAAX_himself · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:25 am Post subject:

I think it should be a 12. Destiny is easy.... HS on the other hand.......

July should be a 12.

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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:41 am Post subject:

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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

July is a pain in the buttocks, but not so much as HS. Monolith is on the level of July, if not easier imo.
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greenearth2 · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject:

Tyrgannus · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject:

Really? I find that interesting. July is the most draining 11 followed by Pandemonium(Hard) and Hardcore Symphony.

July has candle steps at 170. That's faster than Pandemonium's candlesteps, how can you guys conserve energy on that song?

Anyways, I'm not arguing that July should be a 12. It is the most tiring 11, but not the hardest (if that makes sense.)
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AA Bob wrote:

Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

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XALASTOR der Zweite · Trick Member Joined: 26 Feb 2006

hardcore S. is easy, no.