DDR Song Contest Winners

BiggNife · Basic Member Joined: 24 Jan 2006

GO! is awesome. I'm looking forward to the steps. And Race Against Time is a nice change of pace, as someone else said. Its definitely not a typical DDR song, but it has a rythym that can be put to steps pretty easily. Grandolin sounds like it would fit more in a shmup than DDR, but I still like it. The only one I don't like is There's a Ryhtym.

Zeta Aspect · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject:

Okay, first of all, I was upset by a lot of the responses here, especially about "R.A.T." (haha). My righteous indignation is acting up.

"Grandolin" is techno/classical/jazz all mixed liberally. It has classical and jazz bits that add some heart to a slightly ambient piece of music. Frankly, I think it is quite jazzy. In the hands of an ITG stepchart artist, this could/would probably be an 11 (it is a bit like "Fleadh Uncut", but faster, and with runs.l.."Fleadh Uncut" in SPACE!...meh, you hear me...right?). In DDR, I can see it being like "A", at 8 or 9 feet. I will enjoy the hell out of this song if the cut is done properly and if the steps don't suck. This is my favorite out of all of the entries, but not by a wide margin.
P.S. This song is not crap-MIDI. If you want an example of crap-MIDI, take a look at my songs.

"GO!" screams cliche, or at least mutters it angrily, well...at least mutters it apathetically. Cross "Sakura" and "Sandstorm" (EDIT: "Tsugaru"! Why do I always forget "Tsugaru"?), which I feel has been done before (maybe not this well, but still). I think DM Ashura knows how generic some of his stuff is. I wouldn't say it is bad, and I'm not saying I'm unhappy that it made it to DDR, it is just...well...meh. You know what I mean. It is my third favorite song out of the winners. I will enjoy playing this song, I mean, it is well made, and, despite what I said, is very enjoyable. I'd say it could be an 8, 9, or, in a bit of a stretch, a 10. Remember, this is Konami, not RoXoR.

"Race Against Time" is weird only because IT IS JAZZ. DDR doesn't like jazz, in general. That is why it is awesome that it made it into DDR. I can see how someone might mistake this song for extremely low quality, but I beg to differ - it has a certain fitting style. This is my second favorite song. I would like to see this as a 9 or 10, but I've got a feeling that Konami won't follow the fast rhythms, and it will meet its doom as a 7 or 8 footer. ITG could easily have this song at insane difficulty levels...

I can't stand "There's a Rhythm". But, eh, to each his/her own. It is too low-energy for me. I can hardly see this song as more than a 7 footer. Then again, difficulty is not the measure of all things...

Also, Coolkid27,
ITG songs do not suck!!! More accurately, you suck and are projecting your suckiness onto ITG as you cling to your pitiful DDR skills that cannot get you more than 25 seconds into "HotN" expert. Oh, wait...that's me not being able to get more than 25 seconds into "HotN" expert...

Well, that's my rant.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

Actually, most ITG songs would "suck" compared to what people identify as "normal" songs. I think there's a lot of crap on both DDR and ITG. But at least ITG makes up for it with charts/gameplay/scoring/etc.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:

A little off topic, but do you think HotN sucks? Do you think Go! is better musically than HotN?

Weird...
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject:

What makes you ask that? That "HotN" bit was just me combining Freud with ranting and insulting.
I believe "HotN" is better musically than "GO!". I think "GO!" has its moments, but I really enjoy (perhaps read as "am amused to no end by") "HotN". By no means is it my favorite song, but it is pretty neat. Then again, Digital Explosion is perhaps my favorite group...not to say I don't like DM Ashura. I like most of his songs, especially "Euphorium" and "Nautilus", out of the stuff he entered (I would have preferred "Nautilus" over "GO!").
On a related topic, I think both "Grandolin" and "RAT" (great, I wonder if that's going to catch on...) are better musically than "HotN". Perhaps it is partially because jazz-style music is so much less conventional nowadays than...whatever "HotN" is...quasi-8bit techno?...
I'm not going to talk about "There's a Rhythm". Just not my cup of tea. Or rather, it is my cup of tea, but I don't drink tea at all. Go ahead and put it on DDR, but you won't find me playing it unless it has the GREATEST STEPCHART EVAR (tm). Or unless I'm unearthly bored.
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#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

The songs to me sounded more unrealistic than I expected. I like GO!, but the other songs sound like stuff I could easily produce on a music studio program. They don't even sound as realistic as the Thuggie D. songs.

EDIT: I like There's A Rhythm, though. I guess Race Against Time just sounded too Garage Band-ish (at least in the beginning).
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject:

Electronica isn't supposed to sound realistic.
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Zeta Aspect · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject:

Heh, I thought you meant "performed by a garage band." Heh, heh. In any case, I don't think that all songs must be compared to dj TAKA and Naoki. There are different styles of songs and different artists with different sounds. So, as the contemporary proverb goes, suck it.
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TheManator · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject:

Wow, going more through these four, I really like Go! the least.
Bland.

I don't care for the others though.

Phrekwenci · Administrator Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Location: New York, NY

Can we cease with the talk about sucking please? Thanks.
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DJTyrant · Maniac Member Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Location: Ventura, CA

There could be some really, really wicked steps for "GO!"

I really hope Konami does it, if not we can always make edits steps I guess

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Coolkid27 · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:10 am Post subject:

I never said that all ITG songs suck, but I understand how you felt I implied that. I love many many many ITG songs. I just said that the contest winners' songs sounded as they belonged in ITG and not DDR.

Drakken · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:20 am Post subject:

Coolkid27 · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:24 am Post subject:

We just have to remember that each post is someone's opinion and should not be taken personally.

To the person who said I sucked..who told?

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Hlavco · Trick Member Joined: 18 Jan 2004

Just listened to them... Race Against Time is the only one I really liked.
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DMAshura · Trick Member Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Location: Roswell, GA

You know, this is REALLY ironic.

Originally, I only planned on entering Euphorium, Nautilus, and Obelisk. I entered GO! somewhat reluctantly at some of my friends' recommendation. That happened to be the one that won.

To be honest, when Stillwind contacted me to say that GO! had made it and Euphorium hadn't (since only those two made it to finalist status), although I was of course extremely happy I'd made it, I was actually rather disappointed that Euphorium wasn't the one they'd chosen. I actually asked why, and Stillwind said that although Euphorium was a great song, they wanted a variety of winners, so that no two of the winners were really in the same genre. So, in a way, Zerofuser got the genre I wanted.

Also, he said that the 5/4-ness of it would make it unique.

So yeah, all of what you guys are saying... to be honest, I agree. GO! isn't my best work. But, when it's cut down to DDR length and edited, the song gets MUCH less boring, in my opinion. And besides, look at it this way... now that I'm going to have my stuff in DDR, maybe next time they'll take something that will be much better.

I encourage you all to listen to the other songs I entered into the contest. You can hear them on my Broadjam page. Please listen to those so you get a better idea of how I write.

---Bill

P.S.: The reason you guys say it sounds like Tsugaru is because it uses the same instrument, a shamisen. It's a Japanese traditional instrument. Personally, though, I don't think that just using the same instrument as a song makes it a copy of said song. Interestingly enough, my inspiration for GO! wasn't from DDR or any Bemani at all. I got the idea while I was at the Georgia Tech arcade and was watching my friend play Yoshimitsu's stage on Tekken 5.

tora · Trick Member Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Location: Memphis, TN