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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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5240. PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, once u get DDR graphics ill love it laugh.gif

other than the arrow graphics its really good E4.gif



im getting ready to redo my sensors....yet AGAIN..my 5th time actually (just cause one way worked but didnt like it that much, then 4 other ways that didnt work disgust.gif)

ill get pics of when im done
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i do have ddr arrow graphics but they just arent in right now E1.gif
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Two quetsions:

I'm building my 2nd pad using Stoli's design, and my first isn't quite as sensative as I'd like it to be. I have youngins using it that don't weigh as much, and my girlfriend only weighs in at about 100 lbs so she finds she has to stomp a lil to get a response. Any suggestions to increase sensativity?

Second, when I set the pad down on certain surfaces (towers on a hardwood floor, certain carpets) it freaks out as if random buttons were being pushed on the controller. The only way I can get it to stop is by raising it off the surface with 2x4s or chairs or something. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys. E1.gif
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Ulala321 wrote:

I'm building my 2nd pad using Stoli's design, and my first isn't quite as sensative as I'd like it to be. I have youngins using it that don't weigh as much, and my girlfriend only weighs in at about 100 lbs so she finds she has to stomp a lil to get a response. Any suggestions to increase sensativity?


Use a thinner material (mouse pad) in the corners so that the switch plates are closer together.

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Second, when I set the pad down on certain surfaces (towers on a hardwood floor, certain carpets) it freaks out as if random buttons were being pushed on the controller. The only way I can get it to stop is by raising it off the surface with 2x4s or chairs or something. Any thoughts?


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5244. PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the modifications I made to my version of Stoli's design is that I placed a small flat headed screw in each corner of the bottom plate as well as one in the center. By tightening them or losening them, I can adjust the sensitivity. This works well and makes it pretty easy to make sure that no corners have dead spots when I step on them.
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Forgive me, these questions will seem really stupid to people that have already built a pad, but please understand that I haven't built one, and there are parts that are still confusing me:

1. How do the sheet metal contacts touch if there is weatherstripping and foam seperating them? Surely no matter how thinly the foam compresses, there is still SOMETHING there seperating the contacts? After all, the foam+weatherstripping can't compress to zero length!

2. If you screw in the screws into the pegboard so that they are flush with the pegboard, then surely the screw head is in the hole of the pegboard? Thereby not actully touching the pegboard at all, if you get me? The pegboard wouldn't be fixed at all surely?

Obviously I understand that the pad does work, so I am missing something gapingly obvious. Can someone please give me a slap of knowledge to the face? E1.gif
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Well if you think of it that way Jaufwa, then the contacts have some thickness too don't they? So even though the weatherstripping isn't completely pressed down, the thickness of the contacts allows them to still touch each other. You don't need to totally compress the weatherstripping to get the contacts touching.

You'll have to ask someone who's built DDRHomePad's design on the second question, sorry.
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Working on the pad right now, trying to cut out the Acrylic. What did you all do to cut that out, we're having a lot of troulbe with it outselves.
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I learned a lesson today. The lesson is:

If you're screwing in a border, make sure you don't put the screws right through your wires.

I made this mistake today, and now must rewire my entire pad.
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Ryyudo: Attorney at Law wrote:
Working on the pad right now, trying to cut out the Acrylic. What did you all do to cut that out, we're having a lot of troulbe with it outselves.


well i just cut my acrylic yesterday and here are two peoblems i ran into but fixed biggrin.gif

1.Q:How do I stop the acrylic form splitting?
A:The answer is simple, get a blade for a jigsaw that will cut acrylic.

2.Q:How do I stop the acrylic form melting?
A:I took some coolant for cars and poored it on where I was cutting, it wored very well E4.gif

If you have any other questions PM me.
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The way I cut it was with a table saw. if you have one handy, then all you need is a saw blade with carbide teeth, about 36 tooth count, and just feed at a steady rate. I always get a nice even cut, no splitting. Just wear goggles and protect your arms and hands. I've done two pads, cutting both 0.093 in and 0.22 in plexiglass, and have yet to have one piece get screwed up by this method. Good luck!

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Jaufwa wrote:
1. How do the sheet metal contacts touch if there is weatherstripping and foam seperating them? Surely no matter how thinly the foam compresses, there is still SOMETHING there seperating the contacts? After all, the foam+weatherstripping can't compress to zero length!

2. If you screw in the screws into the pegboard so that they are flush with the pegboard, then surely the screw head is in the hole of the pegboard? Thereby not actully touching the pegboard at all, if you get me? The pegboard wouldn't be fixed at all surely?

If you're still wondering....

1. The acrylic should bend slightly, allowing the contacts to touch.
2. I screwed mine into parts of the pegboard without holes (although I dont reccomend this) so I dont know first hand, but I think the screw heads - if you got the right size - will be a bit bigger than the holes and will fit in nicely unless you seriously drill them in.
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IT BENDS!! *slaps head* Thankyou so much! That mystery is over!

And I think I understand (2) as well, are you saying that the screw heads, being slightly bigger than the holes, will sort of "jam" into the holes? Thereby allowing it to fix while STILL being flush with the board?

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Thanks for help on the Acrylic, that poopy was weaksauce. But we used a handsaw and angels sung out. Good thing too, because if we had to take another trip to Home Depot and buy ANOTHER Acrylic board... frown.gif

Either way, just wondering if anyone has a link to ITG Arrow graphics. I know I should try searching on the fourm, but I'm a little short for time frown.gif. But if someone could hook me up, I love you long time. love.gif
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My plexiglass (~.25") was also cut using a table saw with no problems.
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Here are the Afterburner/ITG type arrows I made for my pads, and they look hot (pictures hopefully to follow):

http://plautus.kundor.org/ITGstylearrows/orange%20arrow%20smaller.png

http://plautus.kundor.org/ITGstylearrows/blue%20arrow%20smaller.png
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Plautus wrote:
Here are the Afterburner/ITG type arrows I made for my pads, and they look hot (pictures hopefully to follow):

http://plautus.kundor.org/ITGstylearrows/orange%20arrow%20smaller.png

http://plautus.kundor.org/ITGstylearrows/blue%20arrow%20smaller.png


I love you, and I don't even know who you are! laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif love.gif love.gif

But yeah, thanks alot man, that puts the icing on the cake.
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I don't have a metal pad, nor do I plan on making one. I've come here to ask if anyone has made a bar to use at home with a different mat, such as an Ignition, which is what I have.
I thought that maybe using metal plumbing pipes would work, and then somehow screwing the bar to a think piece of plywood or particleboard, then placing the pad on the wood in front of the bar. I would probably have to put some weight on the front of the board, like bricks or something. Does anyone else think that would work?
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Apocalypse! wrote:
I don't have a metal pad, nor do I plan on making one. I've come here to ask if anyone has made a bar to use at home with a different mat, such as an Ignition, which is what I have.
I thought that maybe using metal plumbing pipes would work, and then somehow screwing the bar to a think piece of plywood or particleboard, then placing the pad on the wood in front of the bar. I would probably have to put some weight on the front of the board, like bricks or something. Does anyone else think that would work?


Probably not cuz when you lean on the bar it puts all of your weight on it and a couple of bricks probably doesn't balance that out. I would go with my suggestion to brace the back of the bar. You can still include the plywood board that goes under the ignition pad so that the bar won't be pushed away from the pad when playing, but don't put bricks on it or anything. If it did tip and there were bricks there....I wouldn't like to see how you turned out. riiight.gif

Just attach two diagonally angled pipes at about half the height of the bar, then connect the two bars at the bottom with a block of wood. Put some anti-slip material on the bottom of the block, and your bar is good to go! Now you need the specs for it...
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HitokiriX wrote:
Apocalypse! wrote:
I don't have a metal pad, nor do I plan on making one. I've come here to ask if anyone has made a bar to use at home with a different mat, such as an Ignition, which is what I have.
I thought that maybe using metal plumbing pipes would work, and then somehow screwing the bar to a think piece of plywood or particleboard, then placing the pad on the wood in front of the bar. I would probably have to put some weight on the front of the board, like bricks or something. Does anyone else think that would work?


Probably not cuz when you lean on the bar it puts all of your weight on it and a couple of bricks probably doesn't balance that out. I would go with my suggestion to brace the back of the bar. You can still include the plywood board that goes under the ignition pad so that the bar won't be pushed away from the pad when playing, but don't put bricks on it or anything. If it did tip and there were bricks there....I wouldn't like to see how you turned out. riiight.gif

Just attach two diagonally angled pipes at about half the height of the bar, then connect the two bars at the bottom with a block of wood. Put some anti-slip material on the bottom of the block, and your bar is good to go! Now you need the specs for it...


I figured it would probably still be flawed even then.

That's a great idea. Come to think of it, the home pads with bars have those. The question is how to attach the diagonal pipes to the bar. Do you have any idea how to go about that? Other than that, I don't think that would be to hard!
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