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BNSUSA Fusion Series Metal Extreme Platform Dance Pad
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kahuna
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80. PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glfelt wrote:
And you'll certainly have to fix it.
The advantage of the BNS pad is that it's much more durable and overall more playable than the TX.


I haven't read a single post of the 4000 breaking yet. If you've seen one of these break let me know. The 4000 has stainless steel arrows, but the underside is still foil so the sheet metal mod may be necessary.
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81. PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elementxero wrote:
kahuna wrote:
This looks like a decent metal pad. The only thing bad about it might be the sensitivity, which shouldn't be an issue with me since I'm 200 lbs.

I still haven't heard about one of these breaking. How about ghosting? Is there anyone that owns one of these that has any ghosting issues?



FYI that probably won't matter. I weigh 200 lbs and am 6'2". My pad is uselessly craptacular.

In fact, the reason I haven't posted on this site is because wasting over 200 bucks on this piece of crap made me quit DDR. My shiny waste of cash is sitting against a wall where it was months ago, and when I want to play I go to the arcade. I wish VERY MUCH that I just spent the 250 dollars on softpads, replacing them as they died.

At least then I would get some use out of that money instead of flushing it down a mirror-surfaced toilet.


Unless you are a flat footed ***STOMPER*** I can't discourage you from this pad strongly enough. It is awful. Worst use of metal since the atomic bomb was forged.


why didn't you just return the pad for exchange or refund. you have 30 days, maybe more, to return a pad if it is obviously defective? this is true of almost any company, if i bought an obviously bad dvd player from Best Buy or something i would go back and return it immediatly; the longer you wait the worse it is.
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82. PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly frustration at the situation. Also it would be expensive and difficult to ship back, and I sort of harbored hope that somehow it would start working.

That said, yeah I should have returned this POS.
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83. PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just curious on the BNS site, the thing says series 2 for the pad. is that indicative of their new v2 dance pad?
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84. PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I would follow up...

I am having a slight issue with one of my pads. I haven't been on them in a few weeks due to some other things taking precedence, but when I got on yesterday the sensors seemed to be all off. All the buttons seemed to be triggering randomly during the menu of Party Collection (I didn't try any other game). My wife's was fine, and after a quick round of butterfly on light it worked like a champ.

I don't know if this is indicitive of a future failure or not, but this did happen once before a few weeks ago. I still say the pad is solid and once it warms up it is more than fine, however this does frustrate and concern me.

I am still not going to say this is a crap pad though, this is just one issue I have had. And like I said, my wife's is fine. I will update if this gets worse though.

Has anyone tore one apart yet? I would still like to try modding it if at all possible, but I am afraid to disassemble one given my lack of any mechanical skill. I did flip mine over and it looks like you can just peel the back padding off with some work. But it probably wont go back on right, but I suspect that the padding on the bottom is the only "seal" to the inside and once that comes off you can probably see most of the guts...
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85. PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard that the way you store a metal pad affects how it will work in the long run. or was that for soft pads? i can't remember. but anyway if it's not too late i guess you could always ask for a replacement pad. heh i think the people on these forums are a bit antsy to open up their fusion pads as well. maybe someone who's had theirs for a while could shed some light on the topic.
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86. PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shufflefield wrote:
Just thought I would follow up...
Has anyone tore one apart yet? I would still like to try modding it if at all possible, but I am afraid to disassemble one given my lack of any mechanical skill. I did flip mine over and it looks like you can just peel the back padding off with some work. But it probably wont go back on right, but I suspect that the padding on the bottom is the only "seal" to the inside and once that comes off you can probably see most of the guts...


Ok well I tore some of the padding off so I could see what is under it. What I saw was wood that was not nailed, or screwed in. So if you take all of it off I am betting that you could see the insides of the ad since it is loose. I am not taking the rest off so, one of you has to.
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87. PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been awhile! I also ripped the bottom off my pad because my down arrow stopped working, and the wood is nailed in, just with very tiny nails that go halfway through the wood. You don't see them until you have to pry the wood off. Anyway, the problem with mine was that inside the hole in the metal where the cable goes through, the circle cut there was very sharp. By hitting the up arrow while playing, I inadvertently pushed the cord onto the sharp hole and cut it, effectively making the down arrow not work. Had to cut the cord off and re-solder the wires. I took some pics, too.

I don't really recommend this pad anymore.
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nintendawg... hmmm... My pad looks nothing like that. I dont have those metal bars on the bottom... I don't know what to say...
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89. PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@nintendawg: could it be possible to attach some form of cushion so the sharp edges of the hole stop pushing against cable? just a suggestion. btw, did resoldering the cable help make the down arrow work again?
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90. PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePandemonium wrote:
nintendawg... hmmm... My pad looks nothing like that. I dont have those metal bars on the bottom... I don't know what to say...

That is because I took off the foam and the sheet of wood underneath, reavealing another sheet of wood with metal bars, etc.

mthegreatone wrote:
could it be possible to attach some form of cushion so the sharp edges of the hole stop pushing against cable?

I forgot to mention that there were some kind of plastic spacers(I don't know how better to describe them.) They went around the cable and kept it from touching those sharp edges. There were two, each stuck out a bit on each side of the hole (if you look at your pad, just where the cord comes into the pad, that piece of plastic encasing it is what I'm talking about.) After opening mine up, I found that the one on the inside wasn't put in correctly, and, after fixing it, I put it back in correctly. The down arrow works fine now, and I don't think I will have this problem again.
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as always, updates are good to hear. nintendawg, let us know how your fix is working for you whenever you finish testing.
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92. PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pad works great, after breaking it in, the only thing I've noticed from Soft pad to this is that you have to be A LOT more accurate. I have to really stress to hit the sweet spots of the arrow, but that will probably only make me a better player, especially at the arcades.

I have had one problem though. From time to time the Up-arrow will randomly stop working, go completely dead, then if I fiddle with the wire going into the controller port and the control box, and then restart my PS2, it'll be fine again. Does anybody know why this happens? It can get really annoying, although I've been able to fix it every time so far.
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93. PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i suppose you could be having the same issue as nintendawg. assuming all fusion pads are manufactured the exact same way, you'll probably have to correctly set the spacers so the edge hole won't cut off any wires. read his posts to be more specific.
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94. PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone taken one of these Fusion pads apart?
I've had mine for just a short time and the right arrow is not working properly. It seems to be sticking. When I get to the screen to select a song, it will just cycle around the wheel through all of the songs. If I go to play one, it does not seem to respond at all.

I took the rubber pad and the piece of wood off last night. I now have access to the wires, a couple metal rods, and another piece of wood. The wires go thru the wood. If I want to tear it apart further, I would have to break a few welds. I really didn't want to do that if I didn't need to.

Is there away to get to the arrows / sensors from the top side or do I need to break welds?
Can someone help me out with what I need to do?

I currently have an email in to buynshop.com and am currently waiting for a response.
I can't really send the pad back to them because the packaging was just inadvertantly sent to the garbage this week. So I need to do something myself.

Thanks for your help.
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check all the pages of this thread to see if your problem has been talked about. there was an issue with severed wires that was talked about, but i'm not quite certain that's why yours isn't working...
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96. PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read thru the whole thread before posting my question.

While I had the back off, I did check the wires, but did not see any problems with them.

I'm thinking I need to get to the sensors, but don't really want to break welds to get there.
Any ideas how to get there?
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97. PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered one of these and just receieved it from Fed Ex today. It looks really nice, but the control box malfunctioned as soon as I plugged it in. Dulcmr7, you might have a malfunctioning control box also. Do you have the same one as me? I have the one with PS2, Xbox, and USB connectors on it.

I have a feeling that I just wasted a whole crapload of money.
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98. PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing - the instructions for this pad say that it's really a ddrgame.com Ion pad. It looks like BNS just rebrands them and sells them for a lower price.
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I never really thought about it being the control box since I hardly ever messed with it. I usually control everything with my keyboard.

How can I determine if it is the control box and not the pad?

Thanks for the suggestion.
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