What are the hardest songs you can do w/o bar?

Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

It's cause I 4x almost everything. I can't move that fast without the bar.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

I suppose if you read at that high speeds it's required. I can't do Summer 4x without the bar either. 3x perhaps.

I don't get how Novice mode would require any technique though >_>

Personally, on harder songs with more arrows I prefer 500+ bpm speeds while songs below 5-6 feet I prefer under 400. It has to do with the number of arrows on screen at a time I guess.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:

darkchao56 · Trick Member Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Location: Westminster, MD

Hardest song I can do w/o the bar, probably monolith..
Hardest song I can do with the bar, probably bloodrush or summer

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Blue0ctane · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject:

Hardest without the bar: Queen of Light Expert
Hardest with the bar: No idea seeing as I've never used the bar, ever.
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DemonHybrid · Trick Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: Matamoras, PA

Tell.

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Tyrgannus · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject:

Oooh! Good call with Tell. That's my hardest too. I practiced "Tell-jumps" for weeks on and off the pad (yes, I actually was practicing Tell jumps at school during lunch in the cafeteria just so I could get them down.) And finally after playing this song on x0.7, x0.8, and x0.9, I got it! I've never tried this in the arcade, but I'm betting those jumps are a LOT easier with the bar.....especially to score on.
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Mostly_Harmless · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:47 am Post subject:

MiiChan · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL

ITG2 not in arcade yet (damn delays) so all my homescores are no bar. Hardest songs I can pass (in order of hardest to easiest for me) on Expert are My Favorite Game, Anubis, and Queen of Light.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:41 am Post subject:

ihcw.stefank687 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005

Um... if player1's scores are better then player2's scores and player one uses the bar and player 2 doesn't... player one still wins. Its there to be used... if you dont use it and someone gets a better score then you... THEY BEAT YOU, playing no bar to make up for having crappy timing(saying OMG you cheated for example) doesn't make you better then a bar player with good timing. Scores are the same bar or no bar... seriously, people that are good enough couldn't care any less about whether the bar was used or not. For those of you that do not respect high scores with bar but respect really low passing scores no bar need to realize that the game isn't different without the bar compared to with the bar, you are still stomping arrows.

Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:

Boochypa · Trick Member Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: VA Tech

ihcw.stefank687 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005

No, it just means player 1 is better...

Mostly_Harmless · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

Well somtimes bar rapers can get really annoying like this time i was in the arcade this guy played against me we did bend your mind i picked hard he picked medium and he used the bar i was like dude you don't need the bar for every freaking song especially on medium or hard (unless its like pandimonium on hard)..... well it turns out he got an S- and i got an A+ he still beat me but i would much rather see anyone get a 10 to 20% lower score w/o the bar then someone who uses it. I mean if I had to play the game my way i would rip the bars off both the pads (they do get in the way alot espcially if you have long arms like me) but then again thats just my opinion. i guess the thing that makes me mad about using the bar is that you might as well not even call ITG a dance game because it seems like your pinned down holding onto the thing and barley moving your upper body. it dosen't even look like your dancing it just looks like some guy holdling on to the bar for dear life while his legs spaz out. to me dance game are made to move all your body when you dance you constantly rotate your body for the next step swing your arms etc. not exactly free style but close. I just dont see how anyone can call bar raping dancing becuase its not. But yes it all comes down to play the game as you want to. Now i will shut up

J. S. Mill · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

Tyrgannus · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject:

This is amazing. According to some people on this thread, the only good ITG player is pickles because of no-bar policy.

After all, Mike Q. and Kevbo suck because they use the bar....

...oh wait, Kevbo and Mike have TRIPLE STARRED SUMMER!!!! But after all, that's not impressive. ANYONE could do that with a bar.

*cough*
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