How hard will it be...

DAF · Trick Member Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: In CP

to go back to the old DDR style interface when SuperNova comes out. One of my favorite things about ITG is that you can customize the scroll speed much more than you can with DDR and can therefore do better on the songs. So...I feel that after playing Super Nova for a round or two, I'll instantly miss ITG's display. What do you think?
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

I think the fact that ITG has a couple more scroll speed options than DDR really shouldn't make a difference in whether or not you'll find it fun. Its 4-panel arrow mashing, thats the bottom line.... it should be fun no matter what. I don't think mods should be 90% of the deciding factor as to whether or not you like it. Look at 5th mix.... everyone loves it, and theres no speed mods from what i remember?

I'm more concerned about the songlist/stepcharts. I think that is the most important aspect of the game. Good songs, fun steps.
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Capajoe · Trick Member Joined: 14 Sep 2005

Still 2.5x would be awesome... I doubt I'll ever really play SN even if we get it. The only thing on there that is actually interesting to me in Faxx.

Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

J. S. Mill · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject:

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noles602 · Trick Member Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: chicago burbs

you should be smacked just for putting a pun in here, everyone knows that all ddr/itg puns are bad, if anyone can find a good pun, i'd like to hear it cuz i've heard em all

The Lurker · Trick Member Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: St.Louis

Silly ITG fanboys.

DDR is still going to be the king, no matter what. SuprNova is going do very very well I think. 300 songs, new improved graphics, c'mon?? C'MON??!!??!!

And who cares, it gives you something more to play, and I think that is what ITG did. And if somebody plays ITG, and does not know what Didder is, they need to be pimp smacked.
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

edit*whatever... i'm not even gonna bother. I just think it is so stupid to judge a game as "too easy" when youve never even played it. Or to even imply you can't have fun playing 8-10 footers. Well, i guess its your loss then.... more songs and stepcharts for me to enjoy
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mtwieg · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject:

I agree that you're pretty biased if you look at a new game with three hundred songs and assume before it even comes out that the only reason you would play it is because of a single song.

As stupid as that is, it's not stupid fanboyism. It's stupid elitism.
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Capajoe · Trick Member Joined: 14 Sep 2005

Yea it is elitism because of the fact I find Pandy expert and Summer expert easy.

Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:

J. S. Mill · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:30 am Post subject:

Synth said everything I wanted to say.
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Capajoe · Trick Member Joined: 14 Sep 2005

I dont understand why everythinks that playing 1 game more than the other makes them a fanboy. I'm sorry it's not fun AAing everything. I just prefer ITG because the music is more my style, its an upgraded challenge, and I think has a better scoring method. So I'm not really a fanboy thanks, I do play DDR every once in a while but thats only when I'm with friends at a movie or something.

TheEnemy287 · Trick Member Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Location: Smyrna, DE

I play both DDR and ITG. I'm a big fan of both...

Both have things to work on, to get better at, to enjoy.

So what if DDR happens to be easier than ITG? So what if ITG has a tighter frame rate and better pickup on the arrows?

This isn't David VS Goliath anymore, no more Wal-Mart VS Mom-and-pop. This is two gaming systems, with the same idea, trying to create something for people to play and enjoy. When are we going to just say "DDR and ITG both have their good qualities", and just leave it at that?

Is it that hard to accept? To just say "I'm looking for something harder, and ITG gives it to me." Or even to say "I prefer DDR because it's easier." To just give up this battle of which is better... ITG has harder, faster, more complicated charts, more effects to put on the arrows. It's an improved upon version of the game we love. Same with PUI (And I'm not a fan of PUI, But I give it credit.) It's taking something we grew to enjoy playing, and giving us a new level of difficulty, it's giving us something new to work for.

I'll admit it. DDR songs are easier. By a good bit at that. ITG gives you more to work for...

But just because of that, I'm not going to hate DDR, and say I won't play it, or not play the new versions of the games... It's still different, something else to have fun on, even if you arn't busting your buttocks off playing it.

It's a game. That's as simple as I can put it... This shouldn't be about what's better, or what's harder... It should be about getting a group of friends, playing the game, and having fun, no matter how good or horrible a person is. It should be about good old competition amongst people. We shouldn't hate one version of a game with similar ideas because of who created it, or how hard it is...

Not liking, or even hating, not giving it the time of day, is like a white man hating a black man because he isn't white.

The EXACT same thing.

DDR and ITG and PUI are all of the same breed. All common sense says, you wouldn't judge a man or a woman by the color of their skin, so why should a game be any different?

These games should support each other, not be hated by their players. Give yourself some variety, no matter how much easier or harder the game is.

That's all I have to say... I hope, maybe, just maybe, I opened some eyes and minds, and some people might change their views a little.

Just play for the hell of it. Not because of what company makes it.
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Houou Don't You Want Me · Trick Member Joined: 18 Dec 2004

"It's an improved upon version of the game we love."

This just about sums it up. Why would I want to play a game that's just not as good as ITG in just about every aspect? ITG developers actually go great lengths to improve the game with player feedback. Konami insists on leaving their game as outdated as it is: they are treating DDR like a cash-cow, but it's obvious the cow's udders are reaaaally dry by now. Why can't they give the game the same attention as IIDX?

klenta · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:49 am Post subject:

There needs to be a kudos system or something.

Anyway, very nicely written TheEnemy287.
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nerds day out · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:26 am Post subject:

I went back to playing DDR after months of ITG and I got an A on Kind Lady.

Although I passed Max 300 for the first time the same day with an A.
The timing is so different, and it makes me sad. :c

J. S. Mill · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:23 am Post subject:

When I play DDR now the perfect window feels to big.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:36 am Post subject:

What annoys me regarding the perfect window is that it never seems to be in the same place for each song, and is apparently set in such a way that if I get a great I cannot tell any change in my timing, but when I start getting excellents and greats everywhere in ITG it does feel that I was off proportional to the degree of my bad grade.
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