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psisarah
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340.  Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| PozerWolf wrote: | | Gah, looks like I gotta do psisar's trick on opening it, but I'm still worried on how to open it (too bad theres no tutorials showing pic by pic what to do). |
I cut along the edge of the pad along the seem where the top layer of the pad meets the black liner. You'll also have to (carefully) cut through the layer of foam and plastic layer for the sensors.
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jpoppyz
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| 341. Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| what can i say about my relationship with the 3.0? It's been horrible. I got one for christmas and the down arrow wouldnt work when combod with any other arrow so i took it back(i got mine at best buy, my dad said they had plenty in stock) and got another. This time, the Up only works about 50% of the time. So i've given up on the 3.0 and im taking it back and getting more anime DVDs and some games!! HORRAY!! then i'll probably get another off-brand ignition off ebay, because i got one that works and feels better than any redoctane ive ever used. |
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Vic Viper
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| 342. Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Vic Viper wrote: | | A quick Ignition 3.0 question, well somehow the left arrow is acting like the X/B button and automatically picks my songs. I suspect that the left side has an unpadded area in it, which could cause that side to bend a little. The foam on this thing doesn't cover the entire pad. And I notice the old 2002 Ignition 2.0 still works, mainly because the entire thing has foam padding in it. Now what I'm thinking is to use the old foam padding from my busted up 2002 BNSUSA pad for the Ignition 3.0 instead. Will I have problems if I try this? |
Please, answer this. Just need to know if the quality of the foam padding on the 2002 BNSUSA pad is the same as the Red Octane 2.0 foam padding, cause I'm thinking of using that for the foam padding on the Red Octane 3.0.
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CoasterKrazy
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| 343. Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Vic Viper wrote: | | Vic Viper wrote: | | A quick Ignition 3.0 question, well somehow the left arrow is acting like the X/B button and automatically picks my songs. I suspect that the left side has an unpadded area in it, which could cause that side to bend a little. The foam on this thing doesn't cover the entire pad. And I notice the old 2002 Ignition 2.0 still works, mainly because the entire thing has foam padding in it. Now what I'm thinking is to use the old foam padding from my busted up 2002 BNSUSA pad for the Ignition 3.0 instead. Will I have problems if I try this? |
Please, answer this. Just need to know if the quality of the foam padding on the 2002 BNSUSA pad is the same as the Red Octane 2.0 foam padding, cause I'm thinking of using that for the foam padding on the Red Octane 3.0. |
IMO, its not the foam that causes the problems, its the plastic inserts. The plastic inserts in an older 2.0 version (which were sold in early 2005, before the 3.0's came out) are harder, and more inflexible. However, the plastic inserts in the newer 2.0's and 3.0's are flimsy, and cheaper. It also doesn't help the fact that the pad itself is bigger, and causes it to be slightly puffy and not as tight as the older 2.0's.
The main differences in the old 2.0's and the new 3.0's and 2.0s are the zippers. Older ones have only 1 zipper, newer have 2. There are also some slight differences in the little plastic black box at the front of the pad, but I'll post pics and stuff later.
I seriously cannot wait until my CF is built and shipped, I played on my 3.0 tonight and I failed so many songs just due to the fact there were so many missteps and arrows just not responding at all.
The moral, get an old 2.0 if you can, or just someone else's brand. RO has cut back on quality to save a few bucks, and went from one of the best soft pads you could buy, the one of the worst.
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Vic Viper
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| 344. Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| CoasterKrazy wrote: | IMO, its not the foam that causes the problems, its the plastic inserts. The plastic inserts in an older 2.0 version (which were sold in early 2005, before the 3.0's came out) are harder, and more inflexible. However, the plastic inserts in the newer 2.0's and 3.0's are flimsy, and cheaper. It also doesn't help the fact that the pad itself is bigger, and causes it to be slightly puffy and not as tight as the older 2.0's.
The main differences in the old 2.0's and the new 3.0's and 2.0s are the zippers. Older ones have only 1 zipper, newer have 2. There are also some slight differences in the little plastic black box at the front of the pad, but I'll post pics and stuff later.
I seriously cannot wait until my CF is built and shipped, I played on my 3.0 tonight and I failed so many songs just due to the fact there were so many missteps and arrows just not responding at all.
The moral, get an old 2.0 if you can, or just someone else's brand. RO has cut back on quality to save a few bucks, and went from one of the best soft pads you could buy, the one of the worst. |
Thanks for the sugestion. I didn't know some of the 2.0s also have this problem. Those are the ones with the XBox cord, right?
And speaking of the XBox, I may have to use this as an XBox pad for now, since I'm having no problems with it playing Ultramix 3.
Now I might concider Metal Pads, since my 3 year old Ignition 2.0 is ghosting the right arrow randomly, but not much. Are the cheap knockoff with the XBox/PS2 cable actually as good? Last time I bought one, it didn't last 2 months.
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Reenee
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| 345. Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I've duct-taped my pads, but it seemed a bit excessive to put that X-shape. I only put one layer on the "underside".
It also felt like the foam got some weight because of the duct-tape.
I also noticed the foam felt a bit flimsier. MAYBE the jigsaw slots weren't being slipped out as easily as I thought on the 3.0 but I did notice that the slots were not protruding as far as on a 2.0. |
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TPF.Catch22
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| 346. Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Heh, 1st post  .
Anyways, I took the plunge and bought my Ignition 3.0 about a week ago from Best Buy (the box was the newer red-style) and so far the pad has been amazing. I've only been playing DDR since Christmas, but I am able to go through all 6 and 7 footers on Max and Extreme, along with a few lower heavy songs. I thought I'd point out a few distinctions my pad seems to have had from others:
- It doesn't move whatsoever: I've played Healing Vision (AM) and Max 300 on Standard and this pad sticks to my carpet like you wouldn't believe.
- Accuracy: This is the thing I was worried about most when I bought my pad, but so far I've had no ghosting and no misfiring at all. Also, my PA instantly improved when I started using this pad.
- Foam insert: While mine is similar to others in that it doesn't fit completely snug inside the pad, the insert so far has felt like a rock. It hasn't bent in any way and really feels terrific to play on.
I know my Ignition is still very new and there is always a chance it could screw up, but I've heard of others failing on the first day of use. I don't know if I was lucky and got a Ignition that lives up to its price tag, but this pad has been everything I imagined.
I figured I'd post this just to show that there are Ignitions out there that can get the job done.
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AceJay
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| 347. Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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FINALLY.
A good review.
Mine (old 3.0's) worked fine for a month or two then died.
But whatever, I might just have to get two new Red Boxes as my replacements.
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Razor LOL
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| 348. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| AceJay â¶â wrote: | FINALLY.
A good review.
Mine (old 3.0's) worked fine for a month or two then died.
But whatever, I might just have to get two new Red Boxes as my replacements. |
I currently have a "red-box" 3.0 that works like a charm. Maybe I'm lucky as Catch22 stated, but hey, I'll take it. However, I plan to save up my work funds from my first ever job (turning 14 on the 30th this month) this summer to buy at least on CF (hopefully two).
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Calvin&Hobbes
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| 349. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Has anybody succesfully hooked up two for vs mode in StepMania?
I can't select versus mode, yet they both work fine individually. |
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AceJay
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| 350. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, everyone.
Make sure your USB ports are working.
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Calvin&Hobbes
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| 351. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, they both work. I have them both plugged in and mapped out correctly. I can even actually use them both in single player mode at the same time (pressing left on either of them corresponds to a left on screen).
I just can't get SM to go into versus mode. |
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psisarah
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| 352. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| AceJay â¶â wrote: | FINALLY.
A good review. |
| Catch22 wrote: | | I've only been playing DDR since Christmas, but I am able to go through all 6 and 7 footers on Max and Extreme, along with a few lower heavy songs. |
That's why.
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TPF.Catch22
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| 353. Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| psisar wrote: | | AceJay â¶â wrote: | FINALLY.
A good review. |
| Catch22 wrote: | | I've only been playing DDR since Christmas, but I am able to go through all 6 and 7 footers on Max and Extreme, along with a few lower heavy songs. |
That's why. |
Well, I know I'm still playing easy stuff, but as I keep improving I'll be sure to update you guys on the Ignition's performance. Today I unlocked a bunch of the songs on Extreme that are Oni/Challenge remixes, and I passed every single one. The pad was working like a charm.
I can't believe how much I've already improved since I bought the pad. That really is the most important thing to me. Later everyone.
~ Catch22
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Frewt Lupes
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| 354. Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I bought my Ignition 3.0 a month or two ago from Best Buy, and it's worked like a dream on both my PS2 and PC (I don't have any Xbox DDR games). No misfires, nor ghosting. I've been playing DDR in general since February of last year, and this thing gets abused by 8s, 9s and the occasional 10. No problems at all so far.
My only complaint is that it still moves a bit, though it's better than my konami softpad, which moved across the floor when I did Breakdown! on heavy. At least this one stays more or less in the same place. |
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Calvin&Hobbes
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| 355. Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Any ideas why I can't get into versus mode in StepMania when both my pads are connected?
Also, where does the pad show up in Device Manager? Mine says RedOctane Gamepad connected when I first plug it in, but then it changes to USB interface device in Device Manager. |
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AceJay
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| 356. Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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What happens when you plug in the second one, and what happens wheb you test them?
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Calvin&Hobbes
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| 357. Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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They both work fine (when plugged in together or separately). They both work at the same time too. If I go into map them when they are plugged in together, the arrows map at different number.
An example:
Pad 1 left arrow maps as Key 11
Pad 2 left arrow maps as Key 21
However, if I try to play, I can't select versus mode. If I choose single player, then I can use either pad (even at the same time). Hitting the up arrow on either pad will correspond to up on the screen.
Any ideas?
Also, what should it show up as in Device Manager? Can somebody post a screenshot?
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AceJay
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| 358. Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Oh wait...XD
Just press the Right Enter button on your keyboard.
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Calvin&Hobbes
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| 359. Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| AceJay â¶â wrote: | Oh wait...XD
Just press the Right Enter button on your keyboard. |
When? |
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