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Jedo
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820.  Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Ketchup345 wrote: | | Jedo wrote: | | The black one is better- its got less traction so you can move your feet faster. |
How does the black have less traction? The black panels are textured and replace your center and corner buttons. The clear go under your existing panels. |
The clear one doesn't change the orginal traction, since it goes under teh panels, but if you get the textured kit which goes over teh panels, its surface is less grippy.
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dnddrguy1
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| 821. Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if this has been asked but it probably has. Can you hook a CF up to a PC or laptop to play stepmania, or is it strictly for xbox/ps2?
I mean I don't have any problems playing the ps2 versions cause I own all 4 and ITG and am thinking about getting the Xbox versions as well.
But thats maybe a little over a hundred songs and I have over 1100 on stepmania, and new ones are coming out everyday and you can make your own.
I've spent lets see about $40 a game for the 4 versions of DDR and $30 on ITG, 3 $20 soft pads, add tax about $270 on DDR so far so I'm like whats another $330 for a CF. Cause the softpads keep wearing out and thats starting to get expensive. I don't plan on getting it for a couple months but I definitely plan on getting one.
Also how much different is the play on a CF from a soft pad aside from shoes, because I've never played at a ddr machine.
Am I asking too many questions i'm not trying to be annoying I just wanna know. |
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v4
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| 822. Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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you would need an adapter to use a cf on xbox or pc. Just make sure you get one that works. Check the adapter compatibility thread for that or the cobalt flux forums on the cobalt flux website.
its very different from playing on any kind of softpad. I previously used ignitions and it was way different. With the mod kit that makes it not completely flat its reasonably close to the arcade cabinet.
It may take a while to get used to but once you adjust you will never go back to softpads |
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DefaultGen
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| 823. Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| Norkusa wrote: | | DefaultGen wrote: | I feel like i'm doing something wrong with my pad. I've been dacing on it for about 3 weeks (Mostly 8-9 footers) and I still feel like it isn't the uber-sensative juggernaut that its hailed as. My scores are lower, it likes to not register some arrows (fixed by messing around with the screws, only happened twice), and I'm scared of the base cracking. Once my warrenty expires im gonna have to build a base for it I guess. I think i'm gonna get the arcade style mod kit to see if it helps (Maybe my scores are lower because i'm accidently stepping on arrows?). I really wanna see if the Blushark would've been worth it  |
I know this is sounds like a real obvious question, but did you turn the corners off in the options menu? I was using my CF in frustration for almost a week before I realized I didn't have the corners turned off. My CF played perfect after that.
The thing is, I was expecting to see an option that actually said "turn corners buttons off" or "use dance pad controller" (like in ITG) or something like that. It was just the option to turn off controller 1 & 2 though. And I also realized that you can't turn them off in Extreme without a special hacked save file. |
Yeah, my convertor turns off my corners for me (I sometimes forget to turn them off when playing PS1  ). Maybe I just need to debow the panels more. I'm sure ill get used to it. |
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SanityAssasin573
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| 824. Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: CobaltFlux-StepMania compatibility |
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I just ordered a cobalt flux pad recently, and I have a Smart Joy Plus adapter, does anybody know if it will work?
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Shadow_Eternal
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| 825. Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dnddrguy1 wrote: | I don't know if this has been asked but it probably has. Can you hook a CF up to a PC or laptop to play stepmania, or is it strictly for xbox/ps2?
I mean I don't have any problems playing the ps2 versions cause I own all 4 and ITG and am thinking about getting the Xbox versions as well.
But thats maybe a little over a hundred songs and I have over 1100 on stepmania, and new ones are coming out everyday and you can make your own.
I've spent lets see about $40 a game for the 4 versions of DDR and $30 on ITG, 3 $20 soft pads, add tax about $270 on DDR so far so I'm like whats another $330 for a CF. Cause the softpads keep wearing out and thats starting to get expensive. I don't plan on getting it for a couple months but I definitely plan on getting one.
Also how much different is the play on a CF from a soft pad aside from shoes, because I've never played at a ddr machine.
Am I asking too many questions i'm not trying to be annoying I just wanna know. |
Wow, this board is pretty dead. Since it doesn't seem like you'll get an answer from anyone else anytime soon, I'll take a crack at it.
The Cobalt Flux is only compatible with the PS2 console currently. There's a control box in the works that they've been talking about for a couple of years now that's supposed to be compatible with X-Box, PC, and possibly one that will have a Pump It Up mode. They've had a number of problems receiving permission, and finding a parts distributor, but apparently they're within mere weeks of receiving the first shipment of control boxes. Again, I wouldn't hold my breath on this.
So yes, you need a converter. What would I recommend? Surprisingly, Red Octane's new universal adaptor works flawlessly with a Cobalt Flux when used with a PC or X-Box console. At only fifteen dollars, it doesn't seem like a huge expense. I just received it today, and have been testing it, and it definitely gets the job done. The official CF control box release would be better, naturally, but this is a good solution if you don't feel like waiting. A link to this product can be found below :
http://www.redoctane.com/universaladapter.html
It's definitely worth the money. The Ultramix (X-Box DDR series) games are excellent, and well, there's not much that can beat playing with a Cobalt Flux on Stepmania. 
The feel of a CF will differ from person to person, I think. You can play barefeet or with socks, though my personal preference has always been shoes. Easier to move around in, and you're not running the risk of slicing your foot on a screw (barefeet), or sliding right off the pad (socks). The pad itself feels very sturdy, and hardly moves at all. I'm guessing that you might have a problem with your soft pad moving around a lot when you play. I think when you get a CF, your performance will improve tremendously simply due to the fact that this thing does not move an inch. When you step, it's such a solid feeling, too. It's hard to explain until you've actually played on one.
It may take a little getting used to, that's about all I can say. It's a completely flat surface, so you may get lost, but that would probably only be a problem if you play in the arcade on an even semi-regular basis, since most soft pads are flat anyway.
If you've got any other questions, feel free to ask. 
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Quad
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| 826. Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Jedo wrote: | | PHERK wrote: | | How long does it take to install the arcade style mod kit? Is it complicated? |
The black/textured one doesn't take that long to install since it goes on top of the lexan panels. THe clear/smooth ones take a little longer though.
Do you already have a CF? If you don't you can get the kit pre-installed. |
Can anyone explain to me how to install the Black mod? I just got it today and I dont want to do it wrong. It came with 4 black panels and 1 clear panel. Does anyone have instructions? |
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Jupichan
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| 827. Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the way I did it (and I hope it's right...haha), was I simply took out the screws on the panels to be modded, stuck the panels on, then screwed them back in with the set of longer screws. As I was doing that, I put the nifty brackets on from the corners to the middle.
Edit: Please remember to stick the clear panel in the center spot as well. That's why you have the brackets. So it doesn't go all willy-nilly on you. Silly me, forgetting to mention that.
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jpoppyz
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| 828. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: |
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i personally think fluxes are the worst metal pads ever. Theyre too hard to push the arrows down and they get worn fairly easy. If they were cheaper, it might be easy to be more forgiving, but theyre more than the afterburner which i personally like more. I dont know if it's just they fact i play on these at an LAN gaming center, but that cant make it harder to push down, can it? Not gonna give you the true arcade experiance, thats for sure.
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Ketchup345
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| 829. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| J-POP_FOR_LIFE wrote: | | i personally think fluxes are the worst metal pads ever. Theyre too hard to push the arrows down and they get worn fairly easy. If they were cheaper, it might be easy to be more forgiving, but theyre more than the afterburner which i personally like more. I dont know if it's just they fact i play on these at an LAN gaming center, but that cant make it harder to push down, can it? Not gonna give you the true arcade experiance, thats for sure. |
My CF is very easy to trigger, and has no real signs of wear.
The closest you'll get to true arcade feel is probably the BlueShark due to the type of sensors (arcade sensors instead of metal contacts). This pad is even more expensive than the CF. |
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Jupichan
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| 830. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If the arrows are difficult to trigger, you probably need to screw with the screws (lolz) or something. |
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REK
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| 831. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I won't get one any time soon, but it looks flat. Like no sunken in arrows like the arcade. Is there a way to mod it? And how are the dimensions compared to arcade, the same?
No way I'm going through 40 pages to find this. |
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Jupichan
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| 832. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| REK wrote: | I won't get one any time soon, but it looks flat. Like no sunken in arrows like the arcade. Is there a way to mod it? And how are the dimensions compared to arcade, the same?
No way I'm going through 40 pages to find this. |
One of the mods was just named and explained on THIS page. |
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dicepackage
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| 833. Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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The Cobalt Flux comes with its screws way too tight. In order to increase the sensitivity you should try loosening the panel screws. Once you have it adjusted correctly you should barely have to press down at all to have it register.
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Jedo
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| 834. Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Jupichan wrote: | Well, the way I did it (and I hope it's right...haha), was I simply took out the screws on the panels to be modded, stuck the panels on, then screwed them back in with the set of longer screws. As I was doing that, I put the nifty brackets on from the corners to the middle.
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Well that seems right except that the clear one goes under hte lexan.
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Jupichan
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| 835. Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Jedo wrote: | | Jupichan wrote: | Well, the way I did it (and I hope it's right...haha), was I simply took out the screws on the panels to be modded, stuck the panels on, then screwed them back in with the set of longer screws. As I was doing that, I put the nifty brackets on from the corners to the middle.
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Well that seems right except that the clear one goes under hte lexan. |
Oops. I did that when I was installing the mod, but I just failed to mention it here. Perhaps I should edit that. Haha. Thanks for catching that. |
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Frewt Lupes
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| 836. Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| It may be a weird question to ask, but how hard would it be to fix a busted up arrow on one of these things? |
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Edible Bondage Tape
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| 837. Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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doyou mean you broke the lexan arrow itself or that some electrical problem has arrisen
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Frewt Lupes
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| 838. Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Eletrical. |
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DefaultGen
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| 839. Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| J-POP_FOR_LIFE wrote: | | i personally think fluxes are the worst metal pads ever. Theyre too hard to push the arrows down and they get worn fairly easy. If they were cheaper, it might be easy to be more forgiving, but theyre more than the afterburner which i personally like more. I dont know if it's just they fact i play on these at an LAN gaming center, but that cant make it harder to push down, can it? Not gonna give you the true arcade experiance, thats for sure. |
The panels in the arcade don't exactly react to a tap. |
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