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0. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Buying an ITG2 machine. Reply with quote

I am looking for an ITG2 Machine to buy. Any ideas of where to get them? It doesn't have to be totally perfect or new as I can work on it.

Also if I got a ITG2 machine and I wanted to put it in a local arcade how muc would be a reasonable division of profits?? 50/50 or 60/40... and on. Keep in mind there are no local ITG2 machines and would be extremely popular here!

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1. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. The places you'd get a DDR machine from are the same places you'd get an ITG2. There's a breif list of them over in the Arcade DDR FAQ (which I think my sig links to, don't remember).

If you're serious about buying a machine, go Dedicab, and expect to pay $10,000+.

I can pretty much tell you right now you're going to run into a snag with licensing and probably aruing over the profit division with the arcade you work a deal out with. This is assuming you can even get the arcade to AGREE to run a profitshare with you.

If you're serious, do LOTS AND LOTS of research as to where you'd put your machine, how you're going to raise funding to purchase it, how you're going to MOVE the machine around (because it generally requires AT LEAST a larget pickup truck), where you're going to get licensing funding, possible insurance costs, and most importantly forming some sort of business plan for this whole venture.

Oh yes, your business plan must consist of more than
1.) buy machine.
2.) profit.

If you're not willing to do that and a whole lot more, don't waste your time.
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2. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, If you have 10K sitting around to burn you can probably get a machine delivered to your home. Barring that you need a business plan because 10K a lot of money. I would suggest trying ebay. There are usually several used machines listed there and they are all in the US already. It will be much easier to get an older machine, and upgrade it (assuming the upgrade is/remains available, not sure). I am talking about a remote region - oviously no one in CA wants to play 5th mix laugh.gif . Don't be a moron on ebay - go to where the machine is and play it. Make them pay for sensors/maintenence if it so needs. Also make sure to investigate its upgradability in advance. Most of these auctions close without sale so you have some leverage., especially in person with cash. It will be easier to get someone to go in on buying an older mix, seeing if people play it before sinking 10K, than just getting someone to go in on a 10K cabinet.
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4. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to surprise anyone here but I have close to that amount of money put away for this machine and I have a remote business plan. Most arcades would cut you in a share of the profits unless youre selling the machine to them, if you didnt what would be the point?

Thanks for all youre help, im always open to other suggestions though!
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5. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buying a machine from ebay and upgrading would actually cost more than a dedicab. And dedicabs are new.

From channelbeat, if you buy an old machine, and upgrade that would be cheaper. But dedicabs are still better and channelbeat doesn't have that good of a track record.

If you buy a machine from coinopexpress and upgrade, it'll cost about $500 cheaper than a dedicab.

This is all without factoring in shipping. I've heard that CoinOp's shipping is pretty expencive. Channelbeat's is kinda expencive, and again, unreliable. Ebay, well, depends. Atleast the machine would already be in the US.

To buy dedicated cabs/upgrades, go to inthegroove.biz.
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6. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The arcade which I frequent gets 30% of the IIDX RED machine profits, while the 70% goes to the machine owner. Shoot for that amount. Tell them it's no loss for them to have the machine in it, but would bring many more people into the arcade to possibly play other games while they are there.
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7. PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akira_247 wrote:
Not to surprise anyone here but I have close to that amount of money put away for this machine and I have a remote business plan. Most arcades would cut you in a share of the profits unless youre selling the machine to them, if you didnt what would be the point?

Thanks for all youre help, im always open to other suggestions though!


If the arcade is a local operation, you'll have an easier time cutting a deal of some sort with them.

If you're trying to put a cabinet in a Tilt, Namco arcade, Dave and Busters, or Gameworks, their corporate offices will block you about 99% of the time (100% for Tilt).

Have you considered just creating a profitshare company of your own, putting this machine you want to purchase in a high traffic location OTHER than that arcade (bowling alley, resturant, etc.)?

Like I said before: Go with a dedicab, not only is it about the same cost as an upgrade, but it's also not going to have the same issues as a 5-year-old DDR machine.
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