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irvineking1980 Trick Member
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700. Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Now people have wars over CobaltFlux, AfterBurner, BlueShark Metal Pad. let's see which one is the best. I am still not sure which one is the best metal pad. |
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Jman39 Basic Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Location: Ohio |
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Norkusa Trick Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan |
702. Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Jman39 wrote: | Ok.... could someone BESIDES cata killer give me some assurance of this pad working with xbox? |
My Afterburner worked fine on the Xbox. The very first time I tried it though, I got a couple disconnect messages. After a few plays, I never saw them again. Strange. Although I know most other people who bought the AB weren't as lucky as I.
Still had to ship that piece of junk back to RO a few months later though because it broke down on me. |
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Darkicarus Trick Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Hudson valley playing DDR |
703. Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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ok in everybodies honest opinion, which pad is better Ab or Tx-2000? Afterburner can't be THAT bad. _________________
"like.. wtf" |
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jjang1993 Trick Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2005
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704. Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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i think the afterburner is better than the tx2000. 2000 is crap cause of its worse control box probs(the cbox probs r worse than the ABs), the arrow panels crack faster than the ABs, and the soldering's worse than the ABs. _________________
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Marvel627 Trick Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2003
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705. Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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tx-2000s also suck because they dont feel like the arcade and the small sensors that only work when u step in the center of the arrow. |
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Jman39 Basic Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Location: Ohio |
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Liquid Zero Trick Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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707. Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I played on an Afterburner at an anime convention for hours upon hours upon hours each day (off and on, of course). I met Kyle Ward there, whom people would probably refer to as KeeL or KaW, or whatever. He's quite a very nice guy to talk to, and he's insane at ITG (which is probably old news to most of us here. But I wouldn't know).
But back to the Afterburner.
Arcade Feel and Playing 10-12 footers:
I played nothing but 9s 10s and 11s...and one 12 on the PS2 ITG they had. I didn't go less than 9 my whole time there...and neither did a few other people. Man, it was exactly like playing at the arcade...so people who are anal about that kind of thing shouldn't worry. Kyle played VerTex Expert each time he got on (from what I saw). I think I've estabilished now that 10s-12s are Arcade-worthy gameplay with the Afterburner with no hassle.
I remember Panemonium Expert being played. But I was half-watching. Chances are, though, if a 12 can be done well, so can a 13.
Lastability?/Problems?:
How long an Afterburner can last is obviously variable by now, due to so many complaints already...but I can at least give an idea of how well it's capable of being. Since an anime convention is 3 days, I played on it for many hours each day, all with the same "9 footer and above" gameplay. Not only that, but there was ALWAYS somebody playing on it all three days, which meant minor rest time for the pads themselves. Um, did I mention Kyle played VerTex Expert multiple times? He was there each day, so I assume he kept doing it each day.
The pads didn't show any wear until the last day of the convention. It was when doubles was attempted, though. None of the arrows were registering on one of the pads, but functioning returned when we went back to Versus/Single. But I dunno whether or not it happened again. Someone playing Doubles was a rare occourance.
Pad Shifting and Performing Hands/Quads:
In case anyone was wondering, doing Hands is equally as easy as on a normal arcade pad. The only hands song I played was Romeo & Juli8 Expert, though (so fun ). It pretty much never moved. The pad moves ever so slightly after even after 10 footers. I watched some guys do the Anubis Quads, and while the pad moved, that's the most it will ever move...because of Quads. Granted, it didn't move nearly enough to throw them off. Again with the VerTex Expert: it moved quite a bunch then, but it's a 12 footer...what do you expect.
Panel Cracks:
I noticed people being concerned about the issue of panel cracks. Well, all I can say is, from reminincing of all the stomping at the convention: It seems mighty clear that the Afterburner has very low susceptibility to panel cracks. And I didn't notice the panels concaving each time from stepping on them (which aids in getting panel cracks, due to physics). If they did, it was barely happening.
Furthermore, about what Syncognition pointed out with the ball-of-foot-stepping. After the 3 days of playing, it's clear that playing like that was the only reason the panels broke. =\
Special Treatment?:
BUT, being a sponsored ITG console set-up, I will have no clue whether or not their Afterburners had a special treatment of some kind. But they look exactly like the images of the ABs all over the net, with recessed arrows and everything, so I think all of my physical compliments to the pads (near-exact arcade feel, great for hands/quads performance, slim concave motion each time you press on them, and barely moving at all after even 10s) at least stand quite factual.
In fact, this gives me an idea to e-mail Kyle on the subject of that (since he was there hosting it...and, hell, if that was even him to begin with). He may lie to me anyway, but somehow I doubt it because they sold off the pads for 60 bucks after the con was almost over (because they were used so damn much, though that's still CRAZY cheap. I hate that I didn't know this in time to buy one of them, but my friend managed to buy one of them). The fact that they were sold off makes it seem more like they were just like the ones being sold now.
Sticky Plastic Cover?:
I'd advise you guys to play with the plastic covering still on the panels. Why? I have no logical reason. But that's how it was done at the convention. People kept stomping with the plastic on until they tore it to the point that it was pointless to keep on and instead rip off. Since it took quite awhile to wear a hole in them, perhaps it makes a slight durability aid...which probably wouldn't be much if it does, but Hey, it's a metal pad. Might as well find any simple way to keep it functional, no matter how small.
(EDIT: The problem here is, the plastic gets harder to peel off after playing with it on. All of it was still ripped off, but just beware of an extra hassle.)
DISCLAIMER: I Wasn't Always There:
Yeah. Since I wasn't always around, I have no idea whether or not they worked on the pads, or switched pads each day, or had replacements handy. What I CAN say, though, is I hung around for about an hour each get-go, and that this happened WAY back in late October. I can only go by that. However, since there were plastic tears from keeping the plastic on, the same remnants of plastic seemed to be visible on the panels each day, so it was likely that these were the same pads day after day.
Granted, I'm still reluctant to buy an Afterburner. But there's my experiences that I had with it. Hope I helped some of you guys out.
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jbean3535 Trick Member
Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: KC Kansas |
708. Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:10 am Post subject: |
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I tried playing with all the plastic still on but in the end, it only made it much harder to get off. _________________
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Liquid Zero Trick Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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709. Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, yeah, I forgot about it being a hassle to get off...I think I'll restate that in that post... |
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Catnapp3r Trick Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2005
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710. Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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the problem i have with my afterburner is how high you have to lift your foot to move from one arrow to another because of how recessed the arrows are, which is very tiring and is probbly the reason i rarely use it anymore and just go to one of my three friends that have cobalts' houses... |
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Snapps50 Trick Member
Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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711. Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I played it at AX 2005. Much better pad than anything i've been on.
Hey guys stop fucking your CF and how goldly it is and buy this. |
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Jman39 Basic Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Location: Ohio |
712. Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Snapps wrote: | I played it at AX 2005. Much better pad than anything i've been on.
Hey guys stop fucking your CF and how goldly it is and buy this. |
Obviously you haven't read much of the threads on these pads. Practically everyone who has experience with both pads agrees the CF is vastly superior to the AB on terms of construction, durability, and sensitivity. _________________
<Raize> can you guys see what I type?
<vecna> no, raize
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Edible Bondage Tape Trick Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: Kerri |
713. Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: |
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The Cata Killer wrote: | I fuse Hydrogen atoms together at 40000000 Degrees celcius to produce helium and massive amounts of energy. |
sorry for being late to the party but thats just the absolut funnyest thing ive seen in like a week here _________________
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Liquid Zero Trick Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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714. Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Zen3k wrote: | the problem i have with my afterburner is how high you have to lift your foot to move from one arrow to another because of how recessed the arrows are, which is very tiring and is probbly the reason i rarely use it anymore and just go to one of my three friends that have cobalts' houses... |
That has to be just your playing style. I never had that kind of problem...and neither did anyone else.
If there was a time where I may have experienced that, it was from playing VerTex Hard, but I think that was just my legs not going as fast as normal, and not as high, since my legs were fatigued by the time I selected VerTex. |
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Norkusa Trick Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan |
715. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Liquid Zero wrote: | Zen3k wrote: | the problem i have with my afterburner is how high you have to lift your foot to move from one arrow to another because of how recessed the arrows are, which is very tiring and is probbly the reason i rarely use it anymore and just go to one of my three friends that have cobalts' houses... |
That has to be just your playing style. I never had that kind of problem...and neither did anyone else. |
Speak for yourself, LZ. That was one of my big gripes with the Afterburner. Because the recessed arrows were down there so deeply, the pad felt very slow and seemed like I had to play harder than usual on it. I would always play without shoes on it too and I would often loose my balance if I missed the arrows because the level of the platform and the level of the arrows were so different. |
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Bosher Trick Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Location: Englewood, Colorado |
716. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:32 am Post subject: |
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like what the marines say: overcome and adapt. _________________
It's not kids in the backseat that cause accidents, it's accidents in the backseat that cause kids. |
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Norkusa Trick Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan |
717. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Boshasaurus wrote: | like what the marines say: overcome and adapt. |
Ehh, I don't listen to those marines. I'm a dancer, not a fighter. |
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Liquid Zero Trick Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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718. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Norkusa wrote: | Liquid Zero wrote: | Zen3k wrote: | the problem i have with my afterburner is how high you have to lift your foot to move from one arrow to another because of how recessed the arrows are, which is very tiring and is probbly the reason i rarely use it anymore and just go to one of my three friends that have cobalts' houses... |
That has to be just your playing style. I never had that kind of problem...and neither did anyone else. |
Speak for yourself, LZ. That was one of my big gripes with the Afterburner. Because the recessed arrows were down there so deeply, the pad felt very slow and seemed like I had to play harder than usual on it. I would always play without shoes on it too and I would often loose my balance if I missed the arrows because the level of the platform and the level of the arrows were so different. |
Odd. Well, the best of luck with dealing with your problem. =/ |
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Norkusa Trick Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan |
719. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Liquid Zero wrote: | Odd. Well, the best of luck with dealing with your problem. =/ |
Thanks. I just put my Afterburner up on Ebay and my Cobalt Flux should be here next week, so problem solved. |
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